
L'analyse des conventions d'appellation des gares et des arrêts effectuée par Metrolinx a établi les principes suivants pour déterminer les nouveaux noms :
1. Simples
- Les noms simples sont plus faciles à mémoriser
2. Logiques
- Les noms qui ont du sens permettent d'établir un rapport logique lors de la planification des trajets; les noms devraient être avoir un rapport avec la région dans laquelle les gares ou les arrêts se trouvent
3. Durables
- Les noms devraient être pertinents pour l'existence entière de la gare
4. Autolocalisants
- Les noms devraient permettre aux passagers de s'orienter dans la région en question
5. Uniques
- Les noms devraient être uniques, afin d'éviter la confusion avec d'autres gares ou arrêts.
Une station de la ligne de métro numéro 2 (Bloor-Danforth) de la TTC porte déjà le nom de Dufferin. Le nom Fairbank permet de situer facilement la gare tout en étant unique.
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It is a name that has been around for many years. It is also attached to schools (Fairbank middle School) and the community centre(Fairbank Memorial Community Centre) and other recreational facilities and parks. The Fairbank United Methodis church has been around since 1957. Simly put it is an easy name to remember with alot of history attached
A neighbourhood that most people have never heard of. I prefer Dufferin North.
Few people know where Fairbank is. Please call it Dufferin.
Not familiar with the name Fairbank and wouldn't know where it is.
I am often in the area north-east of the station, and don't know the name. Something calling out the former city of York might help more, though there are three stations that could refer to.
This is appropriate for the location. Again, I would suggest taking the University subway approach of putting the cross street name in smaller letters beneath the station name.
A friendly sounding name and it won't get confused with the Dufferin or Eglinton Subway Stations.
Everybody riding TTC along Eglinton KNOWS where Dufferin Street is. People riding along Eglinton will know they are on Eglinton and will know Dufferin is where they want to get off at. NOBODY will confuse it with Bloor and Dufferin. KISS
Should note that the nearby gentleman's club also bears the same name...
Few people would know where Fairbank is. Use Vaughan instead.
It's a recognizable community name, but Dufferin is a major street that many people not from the area may be transferring to. It would be good to see that worked in somehow.
Fairbank is the name of the community at Dufferin and Eglinton. It suits it well.
I did an online map search of "Fairbank Toronto" and it brought me right to the area. It seems like the name will be a helpful wayfinding tool for those unfamiliar with the area.
Vaughan Rd would be better. Many neighbourhood names mean nothing to Torontoians not from that neighbourhood.
That is the name of the neighbourhood; it makes sense. Naming the station after the neighbourhood will give more prominence to the neighbourhood because people from other parts of the city will learn to recognize the name.
There's no need to rename stations to avoid duplication. Torontonians have been using the grid system to pinpoint location forever. We all know the exact location of Eglinton & Leslie, Leslie & Sheppard, Sheppard & Yonge, Yonge & Queen, Queen & Ossington, etc, even if we've never been to the location before and know nothing about it. It's marvellously simple and accurate way to pinpoint location. We're very lucky to have our own Cartesian Plane in our city, and we should embrace it whenever possible.
Say "Eglinton & Dufferin" and every single Torontonian will know where exactly where that is and how to get there. Say "Fairbank" and the first thing we'll ask is what is the nearest intersection, so we can know how to get there. Please don't screw this up Metrolinx.
Again, like Silverthorne, has anyone outside of this small area ever heard of Fairbank? The BIA may ask for this, but it's senseless for everyone else and not at all helpful for riders.
"Dufferin Mid-town" or "Dufferin Cross-town" is going to save a lot of confusion. Fairbank is too minor to be recognizable by those who will be wanting to connect with north-south bus routes.
Few people know where Fairbank is. Use 'Vaughan Road' instead.
Fairbank is not self-locating. Despite living just one kilometre (!!!) from this neighbourhood, I and many other people do not know that it is called "Fairbank." The thousands more who do not live so close by are even less likely to know it! Even if I did know where Fairbank is, I would not know that this station is to be found at Dufferin St, rather than somewhere else in the neighbourhood. I appreciate that including "Fairbank" is disambiguating, but it should be combined with the street name to be self-locating: "Dufferin–Fairbank" or "Fairbank (Dufferin St)" or "Dufferin North".
I've used the University subway for decades, but I only know its station names by memorization; the landmarks used are not meaningful to me, while their street names are. Luckily, the Yonge line being right next to it makes it easy to see which station is where, but ultimately those station names could be random words and would be just as useful.
Dufferin North would be a better station name than Fairbank.
I'd prefer Dufferin be Incorporated in the station's name.
I repeat, St Clair West (Spadina) and St Clair (Yonge), Lawrence West (Spadina) and Lawrence (Yonge).
No one will know what Fairbank is. Who cares if there is Dufferin on Bloor. Call it Dufferin North
Dufferin North, unless your from the immediate area you would not know that the area is called Fairbank, if you were from the area at one time you would expect the station to be at Fairbank Avenue 2 blocks west.
Vaughan Station is a better name
I prefer Belgravia.
Fairbank is the name of the neighborhood the station is located in. This name is perfect and was my top choice even before I knew we had the opportunity to pick station names.
No one knows where Fairbank is. No one even knows Fairbank is a neighbourhood. A better name is needed.
This is a unique name that captures the neighbourhood without using "Dufferin"
I disagree with Metrolinx's premise that station names have to be unique. Granted, there has to be differentiation between stations on the same street, e.g. "Queen's Park" instead of "College West", as those 2 stations are very close together. But if the stations are far enough apart, I don't think it's very confusing to say "Dufferin Station on Line 2" vs. "Dufferin Station on Line 5". This works well in other cities. For example, in Chicago, there is an Addison station on the Brown Line, and an Addison station on the Red line. If I'm going, say, to Wrigley Field, I know to take the Red line to Addison. I would not become confused and think, "Oh, should I go to Addison on the Brown line?"
Therefore, I feel that calling this station "Dufferin" is sufficient. It can be differentiated from the existing Dufferin station by the line numbers. For example, someone might say, "Go to Dufferin Station." The response would be, "Which one - Line 1 or Line 5?"
Coming back to this specific name - Fairbank - I've lived in Toronto for over 40 years, and I've never heard of this neighbourhood before. calling the station "Fairbank" leaves me far more confused than calling it "Dufferin". I find myself wondering, "Where is this Fairbank place? I've never heard of it!"
Very esoteric name for a station. Only a few Torontonians would know what area Fairbank is speaking to. My suggestions would be "Dufferin North" or part of the former Eglinton West subway, "York Centre", following the naming conventions of "North York Centre, Scarborough Centre, Vaughan Metropolitan Centre".
There's not a lot of unique, recognizable choices for this neighbourhood. "York" is too generic - it could mean anywhere in the old city of Toronto; Dufferin is already taken; Dufferin & Eglinton just sounds lazy; Vaughan would be confusing; but Fairbank I have never heard of within Toronto until today. First thing that caught my eye on the map was "BOWIE" :) That would work for my sensibilities, but wouldn't really place it for many people - so, whatever... Fairbank it is, I guess.
I would use North Dufferin or Vaughan instead. While Fairbanks makes some sense, North Dufferin would be easier for people unfamiliar with the area, as they would most likely only know major streets.
Although your decision tree is well-considered, it is not consistent with pre-existing TTC station naming conventions. Dufferin is a very significant cross-street and should be incorporated in the station name.
the name is too unfamiliar to most torontonians. how about dufferin-vaughan?
Unfamiliar, but an easy name to remember. I could go either way on this one.
Works well, as this is the commonly used name for this neighbourhood.
"Vaughan" is not a good name for this station -- firstly because of the municipality of that name, and also because Vaughan Road itself does not connect with Eglinton Avenue or Dufferin -- most people associate Vaughan Road with the denser commercial areas around Oakwood and around St Clair.
I have no clue what relevance or need this name change would have? People know it's the Eglinton line and better know cross streets as opposed to neighbourhoods. I study and work in urban planning in the city and even I don't know the neighbourhoods that well. If someone tells me I need to go to the Dufferin station on the Eglinton line I know roughly the general area on a map I need to locate it. If someone told me to go to the fairbank station on the map I'd have no clue where to find it and have to look station by station. In this case the cross street IS the main landmark. There's enough differentiation that, even though it's used on the Bloor line, people will know the difference.
Riders planning to change to surface transit on Dufferin will not know this is the stop they need until they arrive there and see it in brackets under the station name. If not Dufferin-Eglinton, then consider "Fairbank-Dufferin".
Not a widely known descriptor of the area. Why not "Dufferin-Vaughan"?
This station name is confusing and does not help commuters or travellers who are unfamiliar with the area. "Dufferin" or "Dufferin North" is far more logical. Metrolinx is trying to be too cute and clever with these station names.
Has some history to the neighbourhood.
Dufferin is a duplicate name.
Sounds good to me. Make sure to include "Dufferin Street" caption similar to Osgoode (Queen), St. Patrick (Dundas) etc.
I know several organizations with Fairbank in the name, and so the area it refers to is clear to me.
"Vaughan Road" would have been a good name, but it conflicts with "Vaughan Metropolitan Ctr". This is another neighbourhood name with very little existing familiarity to draw on.
Dufferin North will work better as people will know where the station is. Fairbank is not known outside the area.
As mentioned in the comments there are a number of local institutional uses of the name Fairbank. The name is appropriate.
Name it 'York' station. It's literally written directly on the map.
Wouldn't have known that Fairbank was this neighbourhood unless I read it here.
Dufferin North. Dufferin is a major artery. I had no idea what Fairbank was.
Avoids duplication with "Dufferin" station on Line 2. Historical ties to the hamlet that marked the first urbanization of the Dufferin / Eglinton / Vaughan Road intersection. The neighbouring business improvement area uses "Fairbank" to identify itself.
Is this name a joke? The station isn't at Fairbank Avenue. Call it Dufferin.
This name means nothing, and is not generally used to describe this area.
It's not a bad name, but only the people who live in the area know where Fairbank is. Dufferin-Eglinton is my pick.
Fairbank is also a name that is meaningless to most people. If you can't use "Duffering and Eglinton' then use Vaughan; it has a bus on it with that name and would be better known.
It tells me nothing about the stop or where it is. Stop names should be based on known neighbourhood names or local landmarks.
The station name should be based on the cross intersection (eg. Dufferin-Eglinton).
The intersection is DURABLE, self-locating, unique, and logical.
Maybe it's not as simple as "Fairbank", but no one will know where "Fairbank" is just by telling them "Fairbank station". It's not self-locating, and it's confusing. Look at the downtown subway stations "St. Andrew" and "St. Patrick" that are similarly poorly named and confusing, especially for tourists.
Plus, trying to name after local attractions (such as Aga Khan & Eg) results in disastrous station names like "Black Creek Pioneer Village" on the Spadina subway extension that doesn't give useful information about the station location.
Or in another example, naming the Eglinton stop "Science Centre" is a poor decision as well, since that science centre may not be around in 20-30 years (maybe it will be demolished and rebuilt elsewhere... that would not be unusual).
Keep it simple. Stick to the intersections and then everyone can be happy.
I had no idea Fairbank was a neighbourhood, but this could do a lot of good in providing it more prominence. It is unique and I support it.
The area is called Fairbank, and this station is here and therefore Fairbank is perfect.
I've never heard the term Fairbank and I've lived in Toronto my entite life and spent quite a bit of time at Dufferin and Eg.
"Fairbank" is meaningless to me. Does anyone call this area that?
Ug, stop it. These little known street names are not "self-locating" if no one has ever heard of them!
Just call it "Dufferin North"
ohh, yea ""Dufferin Mid-Town".
I like the "Mid-Town" appendage to the name better than "North". There may someday be a subway / LRT further north on theses major road names. Mid-town is more appropriate. Have I mentioned mid-town yet? Mid-town is the way to go with these duplicate major street name stops.
This is a well known name for the neighborhood.
I don't live in the neighbourhood and have never really known this area to be "Fairbank". I prefer either Dufferin North, or Dufferin-Eglinton (following the Bloor-Yonge / Sheppard-Yonge convention). Vaughan Road is ok but Dufferin is better known.
I've never heard of Fairbank; it will become like St Andrew, with a really obscure reference to a neighbourhood/ward name that is very much unknown to people not living on that corner. Whatever name is chosen, it should have the cross street as a subscript, or else no one will know where they are when they pull into the station.
"Fairbank" is on all the street signs in the area. Makes perfect sense.
Not self-locating. No idea where Fairbanks is.
While nice sounding I never heard of this neighbourhood/area before. Expect it would not be familiar to most people.
Fairbank is appropriate, there are so many things in the area named Fairbank, but you will need to note Dufferin in station lettering and announcements.
I've lived in the community for 36 years and quite simply no one outside of the local BIA uses the name for the neighbourhood. It means extremely little to those here, and absolutely nothing to those outside of the immediate area. Dufferin North would make much more sense and eliminate a lot of potential confusion for travelers.
Similar to Silverthorne, this name would be unrecognizable and meaningless to many riders from outside the area. I would suggest Vaughan Road or Five Points, as this station is near the junction of Dufferin/Eglinton/Vaughan.
Relevant and logical and honours the history of the area.
This name means nothing and makes no sense to people outside of the immediate area. Dufferin is one of the busiest bus routes in the city, and it should be connecting to something with Dufferin in the name.
Where the heck is Fairbank? Transit names should not confuse transit riders. Dufferin is a major artery of the city and NEEDS to be identified on this map. Name it "DUFFERIN MIDTOWN".
There is no reason this can't be called Dufferin Station as well. People are not going to get confused because there is another Dufferin Station in our system. It's not any different than having dozens of Queen St stops on our surface routes. If people know the route you're talking about then it automatically makes sense. Not only that but since the city is build in a grid fashion, people that haven't been to Dufferin and Eglinton before will still know exactly where it is right away and can visualize it in their head. You don't have to look further than New York to see it works fine in the subway as well. 42nd street is used 3 times. 125th Street is used 4 times. 116th Street is used 4 times. 110th 4 times And so on... Please reconsider using these almost tiny unheard of areas of the city as station names.
Give a history/geography lesson as part of the PR and maybe yes. But firstly most people know Fairbanks strip club lol. I like Dufferin and Eglinton
I'm repeating this comment for many station names because I think the naming has the same issue.
How many transit users will know that Fairbank references the neighbourhood? Much like St. Andrew and St. Patrick stations, transit users will come to associate the name to mean the Eglinton LRT stop at Dufferin. Much like the subway station platforms that read St. Andrew (King St.), because the station name will mean nothing to so many riders I suspect that the sign on the LRT station platform will read Fairfield (Dufferin St.).
Name this station Dufferin. Perhaps include "Fairbank" in brackets below the "Dufferin" on the station walls/signage, but not on the route map.
You're running a transit system. The KISS principle applies. The line intersects Dufferin St, a major opposing thoroughfare, so it's Dufferin station. Anything else may be cute, have a hidden meaning or be artsy-fartsy, but it won't clearly convey where you are geographically, which is what all normal people use to plan trips and determine routes and connections. Since there's already a same name subway station perhaps consider something like 'Dufferin Centre' to differentiate, or maybe 'Dufferin L' to associate it with the 'L'RT line.
Dufferin-Eglinton would be better. Fairbank is not a well-known name. Yes, it has potential to become so, but naming after the street is better.
I disagree with Metrolinx's bias against reusing station names. The policy works on the GO system, but I suspect will be unwieldy on the Crosstown. Certainly using neighbourhood names for some stations would be fine, but street names are preferable for major streets.
Most people who live in the area will not recognize Fairbank as their neighbourhood, the name of a park quite a way to the south, never mind those coming to the station. North Dufferin seems a better geographic name and follows the TTc tradition. Dundas West, St. Clair West and Eglinton West.
Again, where is Fairbank?? Few people except locals would know. Stick with the major cross street name so that people have a clear understanding of where they need to go.
Dufferin is a major street people try to get to. Fairbank is somewhat esoteric. Go with Dufferin or Dufferin North
Fairbank is long-time historical name for this neighbourhood. I believe there used to be a Fairbank station on the beltline railway when it existed. And there was a Fairbank telephone exchange back in the day. It would be great to see this name that has fallen into some disuse be resurrected again.
Again a unique local name which will become recognized and known by being put into use as a station name. Others; concern about names like Fairbank and Silverthorne not being widely known outside the neighbourhood would have applied to Davisville and Summerhill stations on the Yonge Subway prior to its opening in 1954. These were local street names stemming from pioneer settlements and not generally applied to the larger surrounding neighbourhoods as they are now known. Residents at Cleveland and Manor Rd E for example would not then said they lived in "Davisville", as they do now. Community consultation is good; but that doesn't mean majority must rule.
"Dufferin-Fairbank" would be better. I like a street name designation with a community designation after that.
No one knows where this community name is. At the very least please put "Dufferin" in brackets beside or under the name.
Dufferin North is better
Fairbank is the most appropriate name for this station and this area. Vaughan Rd would be a second choice. Adding "-Dufferin" and using a hyphen should be maintained for interchange stations only.