
Metrolinx’s analysis of transit station and stop naming conventions established these principles for determining new names:
1. Simple
- Simple names are easier to remember
2. Logical
- Logical names provide a mental link when trip planning: they should be relevant to the area they reside
3. Durable
- Names should be relevant as long as the station exists
4. Self-Locating
- Names should allow users to mentally locate themselves within the region
5. Unique
- A unique name is one that cannot be confused with any other.
The name Oriole Park self-locates this station by the nearest north-south road and area.
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Should be named Avenue, as thats a more major road in the area.
Robmausser: there is going to be a station at Avenue Road.
It's a decent name since Oriole Parkway is adjacent
The station is at Avenue Road (at least currently on the plan, where Mac's Milk/Subway is), and there is no other Avenue Rd station name, so I don't know why this would be called Oriole Park. It is too confusing with Oriole Parkway street, and I don't consider the area to be called Oriole Park.
1) The cross street is named "Oriole Parkway"
2) There is an "Oriole" GO station in a completely different area.
Oriole Park could work, but I would prefer Avenue Road.
The Station is at Avenue Road, not Oriole Parkway. Just call it Avenue Road or Avenue North.
Confusion with Oriel GO is possible.
It should be called St. James Bond. The former United church in the area was called that and it would bring a certain cool factor to the name. "The next station is Bond, Staint James Bond"
Please stick with Avenue Rd.
I like the name Oriole Park a whole lot, but it may not be as effective as Avenue.
Avenue Road is a major thoroughfare, and more widely known.
Why not keep Avenue?
Should be named Avenue, especially for connections to the 61 and the 5
Why not call this stop Avenue Road? Avenue Rd is a major N-S street and much more widely known than Oriole.
Avenue Road is better than Oriole Park because it's under Avenue Road. Keep it Avenue Road Station.
Unless the plan is to rename Oriole Stations I think the name is too similar to an existing station in the city.
Good choice. Distinguishes it from Avenue Road, and identifies it (correctly) as being at Oriole Park.
Oriole Park means nothing to Torontonians, other than the few millionaires who live in this neighbourhood and may have once taken a bus. Please use an intersecting street name so riders know where they're getting out!
Avenue Road is the major road at this intersection, and is much more widely known than Oriole Park. Plus Oriole Park will confuse many with Oriole GO Transit station in North York.
Avenue Road is the obvious name for the station. It is a major north south artery in Toronto and currently has no station named after it.
Why is this station named Oriole Park and not Avenue? It violates principles 2 (not very relevant in comparison to Avenue Rd, the station's major cross street) and 4 (it does not self-locate, since Torontonians know Avenue Rd much better than they know Oriole Pkwy).
Calling the station "Avenue" or "Avenue Rd" solves these two issues, and is still just as simple, durable, and unique to the system.
Name the station Avenue Road as it is at Avenue Road and Eglinton.
I associate this stop with Avenue Rd, not Oriole Pkwy. Avenue Rd is where the station will be located too.
Hi there,
No. Definitely do not name this Oriole Park. I am a resident of this neighbourhood and strongly recommend you name the station Avenue Road. That is the name of the main street and the stop that residents will tell visitors to get off at if they are travelling to this neighbourhood.
Why Oriole Park? This is confusing. Avenue Road is by your definition 1. Simple 2. Logical 3. Durable 4. Definitely Self-Locating (this is a no-brainer). 5. Unique (how can Avenue Road be confused with any other)?
You have one opportunity. Do the smart thing and keep it simple. Avenue Road is simple. Don't confuse people. Nobody calls this neigbourhood Oriole Park and never have.
Signed
A 53 year resident of this neigbourhood
Lived in this city my whole life and this is the first time I've ever heard of Oriole Park. Oriole make me think it's near Leslie Stn. Just keep it Bathurst.
Easily understood by anyone living in the area. No conflict with any other station (even GO is only 'Oriole')
Larid is misspelled and should be Laird.
Eglinton station would make more sense being called Yonge as that is the N/S cross street and keeping it consistent
If the station is at Chaplin then call it Chaplin. You can't use the "well there is already another station by the name of Chaplin" because there is not so why not call it Chaplin. I cannot believe there even needs to be a discussion on this and that Metrolinx has all this money to pay people to go over these surveys
Avenue Rd. should be the only name considered for this stop. This just sounds like someone is being over creative and not practical.
Avenue Rd is a much more recognized street and forms the north side of that intersection, and the world "Oriole" creates confusion with the Oriole GO station at Leslie and Sheppard.
this is avenue road not oriole park- as a child we would sometimes refer to eglinton park as oriole park - haven't heard it called this for years
This captures both the neighbourhood and a major street in the area without using the more ambiguous "Avenue".
I assume the "Oriole" station on the GO network at Leslie and 401 will be relocated to Leslie and Sheppard in future and renamed to "Leslie"?
Absolutely needs to be called Avenue... as many, many of the other participants have mentioned, the station is at the corner of Avenue and Eglinton, not Oriole Parkway and Eglinton... so if it is not named by the cross street it will be confusing to people.
This name will confuse most people, as many will see it as a stop at Avenue Road. I don't think this is a particularly self-locating name.
Avenue Road is a recognizable street name, and no other stations named Avenue.
Why not Avenue as there is no other stop called Avenue? If not Avenue, perhaps Allenby (neighbourhood and school) is less confusing than Oriole Park. Oriole Park Rd is far enough away that it is confusing. There used to be an Oriole electoral district in North York which could cause additional confusion
Station should be called Avenue, because it is geographically accurate and will not be confused with any present or future stations
I feel people would associate more with Avenue (Road) than Oriole Park. People have a relative idea in the city where Avenue Road as it is a prolific street.
The "self-locating" choice would be to call this stop "Avenue" which is the major north-south arterial road crossing Eglinton. As others have mentioned, Oriole Park is too close in name to Oriole--the name of the GO station (refer to the principles in your YouTube video about not using names twice.)
The station is going to have its main entrance/exit on Avenue Rd. (according to Metrolinx's current design for the station on its website), but Metrolinx wants to call it Oriole Park - a road that's 2 blocks away? That doesn't simplify things - if anything, it makes it more complicated. It's a bit like calling King Station on Line 1 "Melinda St.", or St. Clair West being called "Heath", because there are secondary exits on those streets. Call the station "Avenue Road" or "Avenue Rd." - just like "Main Street" on Line 2.
Why not call it the full name "Oriole Parkway" or "Avenue Road" (note FULL NAME) not Avenue (which is VERY CONFUSING).
Oriole Park is not even near Oriole Parkway but is located at Avenue Rd and Eglinton.
While its not bad, Avenue Station makes more sense. It's a bigger street, and that's where the station is gonna be.
confusing and inaccurate. please call the station avenue road, which is recognizable to all of us.
This name is the most baffling. The station is located at Avenue Road, a major cross-street. Naming the station "Avenue" would cause no confusion or duplication. Call the station "Avenue".
There is an Oriole Park, located nearly a kilometre away from the intersection. This name does not meet principles 2 and 4: this is not logical, and not self-locating.
The cross-street is Oriole Parkway. The station should be Oriole (preferred), or maybe Oriole Parkway.
You already have an Oriole Station on GO Transit, and so you have violated your own desired to avoid confusion.
"Avenue Road" or "Avenue/Eglinton" are just fine.
Because there is already an Oriole GO Station in a completely different part of Toronto (Leslie / 401 area).
Try to find a different neighbourhood name instead
No need for the change, there's no Avenue station?
Horrible, horrible name. Who is coming up with these and why, in this specific case, is an alternate name needed? Avenue Road is a uniquely Toronto street name. Why can't we have an Avenue station?
From what I can see on the map, the station is at Avenue Road. I think the station should be called Avenue.
I think Avenue will be better suited for those people coming from both the north and south; Oriole is really only recognizable for people who live south of Eglinton (though there is a small residential street north of Eglinton which doesn't mean much to too many).
"Oriole Park. What? Where?" Heard by every commuter who doesn't live within a five minute walk from the station. Metrolinx, please stop trying to be cute and clever. "Avenue Road" is too logical a name for this to even be a discussion.
OP would make it easier to find where you are going.
What's wrong with Avenue station? Sure it's quirky but everyone in Toronto is already familiar with the oxymoron of Avenue Road.
I don't actually think this is appropriate to the area - everybody knows Avenue Rd., but Oriole Park is more of a diversion or a supplementary route. It just doesn't seem like it conveys anything clear in terms of location.
Conflicts with existing Oriole GO station. Even if that station is renamed, "Avenue Road" with the street suffix included a la "Main Street" is a better fit.
The name violates your own decision tree. Higher order --> 2km or less from next station --> Grade Separated --> No major landmark --> Use major cross street.
Avenue road is major cross street that isn't taken. Oriole park is unknown and located south of the station. Eglinton Park is closer. There is also an Oriole Park and Oriole CC in North York as well as an Oriole GO Station so the name will be confusing
Oriole GO confusion plus Oriole Parkway is a short detour from the much better known Avenue Road.
The station is located at Avenue Road, and a good block or two away from both Oriole Park and Oriole Parkway. There is no Avenue Station so naming it Avenue or Avenue Road Station would make more sense
By choosing this name, you kind of violate your own principles -- the station is at a prominent nearby street, Avenue Road, which does not have another transit station (and is not likely to.) While Oriole Park is indeed the nearby neighbourhood, the name suggests to passengers that the station is at another prominent north-south street, Oriole Parkway, which it is not. Also, "Oriole" is already a GO station name, violating your principle of avoiding duplication. Use "Avenue Road", instead.
I agree with all the other comments mentioned against using this name. It makes me think that the station is going to be at Oriole Park.
Use Avenue Road!!!
There is a park by the name of "Oriole Park" and this would be confusing for some people.
The actual street name is Oriole Parkway and would make more sense.
That said, more people would identify with Avenue Road and given it is a block away and perhaps is where the station will be located, that would probably be the most logical and recognizable name.
This has to be the the most absurd station name. The station is no where near Oriole Park, which is near Chaplin Crescent, closer to Davisvill station than anything else.
What's wrong with calling the station Avenue (or Avenue Road - we have a precedent with Main Street)? There's no duplication.
Keep it as Avenue. Who even knows what Oriole Park is?
"The name Oriole Park self-locates this station by the nearest north-south road and area."
Seems to be wildly inaccurate, as, in accordance to the above map, the station will be at Avenue Road, which is not only the more well-known street in the first place, but is also "the nearest north-south road."
Isn't there an Oriole GO station already? People will get confused.
The station is at Avenue Road, not Oriole parkway. Avenue Road is a major street while Oriole is a very minor road. There is no other Avenue Station that I know of but there is an Oriole Station on the GO Richmond Hill line.
The general public doesn't know what or where Oriole Park is. For a station name, Avenue Road is much stronger.
To name t his station anything but Avenue defies all logic.
1. The station as currently proposed will be at Avenue and Eglinton - ONLY the secondary entrance will be close to Oriole Parkway.
2. The station, as indicated on Crosstown website, will connect to the TTC #5 Avenue bus (and presumably the TCC #61 Avenue Road North bus).
3. There is no TCC Oriole Parkway bus route (yes the #5 travels it for only a short distance).
4. There is no other currently named TTC Avenue transit station.
5. Oriole Parkway is not a main north-south road - it ends at Roselawn (one block north of Eglinton) and is only accessible in a southbound direction on the north side of Eglinton.
6. This decision tree clearly demonstrates why the station should be named Avenue.
I think this is a sensible name, but I would add to the chorus of others wondering why it was not named after Avenue Road.
I'm not sure why Avenue couldn't be used. Most commuters about oriole parkway. If you want a landmark how about UCC. It's well known and close by. You could also call it avenue-oriole park.
It would let me know that I was just a short walk from home. :) To call it "Avenue" doesn't locate it as anywhere more than anywhere along Avenue Road, which is a strange name anyway, or on any road that is (Something) Avenue. - - And I LOVE the actual Oriole Park which is near this station.
Avenue Road is a major artery and not used as a name on the network
Stupid. The main street is Avenue Road; Oriole Park could be confused with the existing Oriole GO station (which should be removed and rebuilt at Leslie, but that's a different subject).
'Avenue Road' would be more appropriate for this station.
I thought the station was going to be at Avenue Rd and Eglinton. Shouldn't it then be called Avenue Rd & Eglinton per the naming convention? I live in the area and would never refer to it as Oriole Park.
This is a station at Avenue Rd, why is called Oriole, which is the next street east? That does not make sense.
It should be avenue Rd. Thats just obvious!
Oriole park is quite far from the stop.
Avenue Rd. is the best choice, there cannot be any other name.
Why not Chaplin? I like that better.
There is no conflict with Avenue Road. Oriole Park is at Davisville station.
Call it Avenue Road since the station actually sits on Avenue Road. Plus we don't have an Avenue Road Station down at the University Line (nor are any future LRTs / subways proposed that will run through Avenue Road to the north or the south!)
Now that I look at the map again, if you're not going to call it Avenue Road Station, Eglinton Park would be a better name than Oriole Park for the simple reason it is much closer (300 m?) than Oriole Park which is down at Oriole Parkway and Chaplin Crescent (basically 1.5 km south).
The station is at Avenue Road, not Oriole Parkway; the fact that they're close together may actually make it more confusing to find, because people's descriptions of where the station is could lead someone to find Oriole Parkway, the street, but not see a station.
The actual Oriole Park is a kilometre away from this station and not even on Avenue Road. The street in the area is called "Oriole Parkway", not "Oriole Park". But since the station itself is at Avenue Road anyway. Why not just call it "Avenue Road"? The nearest neighbourhood to this stop is Allenby which could also work as a name.
Chaplin Estates sounds way better
Avenue is the nearest major street that runs north and south, Avenue or Avenue Rd would be better
The park nearby is actually called "Eglinton Park", not Oriole Park. Just stick with "Oriole", and you've got a great name after the street
Changing this station name to Oriole Park is confusing and the station name should remain Avenue. The Station is located at Avenue Rd. which is a major thoroughfare in the City of Toronto and useful for wayfinding . There are no other Rapid Transit Stations with names similar to Avenue. Oriole Park is a minor street not located at the station entrance. Oriole Park is not we well known road. There is an actual park, named Oriole Park which is also not in proximity to the station but adjacent to Davisville Station. There is another Oriole Park at Don Mills and Sheppard, adding to the confusion. Oriole Park only describes an area that lies some distance south east of the station's location. No-one who lives in or knows this neighbourhood would describe the Avenue Rd and Eglinton intersection as Oriole Park.
There are too many things called "Oriole" in this area, and there is no redundant Avenue Rd. subway station, so just stick with Avenue Rd.
Why not Avenue Rd.?
To be honest, I don't understand the selection of this name.
1. There is no Oriole Park. The adjacent park is called North Toronto or Eglinton Park. The street that you reference is Oriole Parkway.
2. The nearest major street is Avenue Rd. and not Oriole Parkway. From previous designs, the main entrance to this station was to be on Avenue Rd. Why change it?
3. GO already has a station named Oriole. How is Oriole Park versus Oriole any less confusing than Keele versus Keele North?
The station should be named Avenue or Avenue Road.
Station should be named Avenue. I've lived in the area most of my life and have never heard the area referred to by "Oriole Park". "Oriole Park" as a name does nothing to help locate the station on the line, and may confuse some who don't know the city due to the presence of Oriole GO Station.
For any station on the street/road grid the station should be named after the appropriate cross street for the line, with the line's name (e.g. Eglinton or Yonge) added for clarity when making construction or delay announcements.
It's logical and follows standard transit station naming conventions - name the point on the line after the intersecting street.
I initially said the name was good based on your statement that it's named after the nearest N-S road, but it seems that's not true. This station is at Avenue Rd, so it should be Avenue station. Deceptive statements in your description make it seem you're looking for support for decisions you've already made, not fair comment on proposed names.
Potential confusion with Oriole Stn on GO. Oriole Parkway may be better; it's at least a local street name. Avenue-Eglinton would be better
Should be called 'Avenue Road'
Not sure what the problem is with naming it Avenue Road. It would be the only station in the system with that name and clearly tells you where you are.
Avenue is where the station is. It connects with the Avenue rd. bus. Why complicate things, there is no Avenue Station in the system so no reason to move from the standard naming practice.
Why isn't this called Avenue road?
This name is not used by residents of the area. To suggest it self-locates as being near the n-s road is incorrect as the street name is "... Parkway". There would be confusion with the real "Oriole Park" at Chaplin Cr and near Davisville Stn. Could also be confused with Oriole Stn on the Richmond Hill GO line and named after the nearby pioneer community of Oriole.
I prefer "Avenue Road."
Avenue Rd. is the most accurate way to describe the location. Leave it alone.
isn't avenue road the closest road?
Also why not Eglinton-Yonge like Bloor-Yonge/Sheppard-Yonge? Makes no sense to call it Eglinton.
I like the neighbourhood names. Good.