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Hurontario LRT line in mississauga north of Matheson Side is Station.

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Metrolinx
May 19, 2021 - 07:28

Good morning, you are correct. The Hurontario LRT stop at Matheson Blvd will be located on the north side of the intersection. You can see the current rendering (a computer-generated image of what the stop could look like) in our Mississauga North neighbourhood update!

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Anonymous
May 19, 2021 - 21:35

Are you able to confirm whether the traffic lanes between Cooksville GO and Eglinton will be reduced from 3 lanes (one way) to 2 lanes? I have been trying to determine this based on renderings, but can't seem to say with certain. Thanks!

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May 20, 2021 - 13:58

Thank you for the question. It will be two northbound and two southbound lanes plus turning lanes where they currently exist throughout the corridor, including from Cooksville GO to Eglinton. You can see the alignment in our environmental assessment documents - roll out map here.

There will also be bike lanes on both sides of Hurontario Street north of the Queensway, and south of the Queensway on the east side will be a multi-use trail - all part of the project scope!

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1. Will the LRT have priority signalling at intersections?
2. Is it being built with a possible re-introduction of the downtown loop in mind?

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Metrolinx
May 21, 2021 - 12:29

Thank you for your questions. Transit Signal Priority is part of the Hurontario LRT project. It will be materialized mostly in the form of green light advance (i.e. changing to green earlier) or extensions (extending the green light for the LRV). The downtown loop is not part of the current HuLRT scope, however the design does protect for that possibility in the future.

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Metrolinx
May 26, 2021 - 14:10

 

Good morning and thank you for your question. The LRT will operate at street level along Hurontario between Brampton Gateway Terminal, making one below grade connect at Port Credit GO Station. You can see a rendering of this on our website here.

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May 24, 2021 - 21:03

Hi! I just wanted to provide a few comments on the concept renderings.
1. The surface station architecture is okay... except for the number panels (ex. a 10 displayed on the 'Mississauga North' image). They do not serve much of a purpose in terms of wayfinding... and why use them specifically on this project? Wayfinding should be consistent with every project that is built in the region.
2. The underground station (shared in previous updates) looks very bland, cheap, and not interesting. This is especially true with the platform-level rendering. The concrete walls, typical ceilings, and other features are very basic. Could you please be more ambitious with your station design?
3. I read the 'Subway Station Architecture Design Standard' that Metrolinx produced for its projects. It is way too modernist. I think we deserve better. I think we deserve beautiful infrastructure.
4. The streetscape still seems very auto-oriented. This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to refocus on people & transit, and it would be best to have car lanes that are not too wide, generous sidewalks, great bike lanes, beautiful landscaping, and perhaps even urban plazas or parkettes! I implore you to build sidewalks with beautiful paving (not concrete), raised bike lanes that are properly protected (this makes a big difference), and good street furniture... including attractive street & pedestrian lighting. The concept renderings show very utilitarian lighting... and I think we should change that! I don't see much of a reason for building ugly infrastructure on purpose. Finally, I would caution the team to be careful about LRT wires. I've seen how cluttered they look on the Eglinton Crosstown project... and I hope we can build them in an uncluttered way, and hide as much of the ugly utilities as possible.
5. I think you should rethink the Rathburn (downtown) station, as there will be a lot of development here. The transit hub should be as integrated as possible with other services (with minimal walking distances) and should anticipate the large amount of future residents.

Thanks for considering my comments. I hope to hear back from you!

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Metrolinx
May 27, 2021 - 08:55

Thank you for these questions. The Hurontario LRT Project includes requirements for an integrated landscaping approach to provide as much visual and passenger-experience continuity as possible.

1 & 2: The 10 on the panel refers to Highway 10 for Hurontario. Design of Hurontario LRT stops, including Port Credit GO, are not yet finalized. The renderings give an idea of what it may look like.

3 & 4: The LRT system will be designed and constructed following design excellence principles that look to integrate the system with the surrounding environment. For instance, where there are plazas, medians, portals, stations and stops, the design will try to accommodate soft-scaping with ornamental grasses, low growing plants and trees that provide all-season visual interest. The Hurontario LRT project will also include raised and separated cycle tracks north of the Queensway on both sides of Hurontario Street and a multi-use trail on the east side south of the Queensway.

5: We are working closely with our transit partners and the City of Mississauga to ensure a smooth and safe transfer between systems at the City Centre stop. More information about the exact configuration will be available as design is finalized, we’ll continue to share updates through our website, our regular newsletter and engagement opportunities.

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This LRT Route for expansion on main streets goes down between between Brampton Gateway and Downtown Brampton transit Terminal. I might be underground tunnel we more rapid transit. Anymore main street north extension to the end of line

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Metrolinx
May 27, 2021 - 08:57

Good Morning. The City of Brampton is leading a Light Rail Transit Extension study along Main Street to extend the Hurontario LRT from Brampton Gateway Terminal to Brampton GO Station. The extension is not part of the current Hurontario LRT project scope and would be an independent project. You can learn more about the study here: https://www.brampton.ca/EN/residents/transit/Projects-Initiatives/LRT-Ex...

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Will there be a u-turn added to the new signalled intersection (currently unsignalled) at Pinewood Trail & Hurontario (for southbound autos to u-turn to go northbound)? Also, will there be a u-turn added to the existing signalled intersection at Pinetree Way & Hurontario (for northbound autos to u-turn to go southbound)? If not to either of those, how will residents of Hampshire Crescent access northbound Hurontario and the QEW, and how will they access Hampshire Crescent when coming northbound from Lakeshore Road?

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Metrolinx
May 28, 2021 - 08:33

Good morning, and thank you for the question. Plans for the Hurontario LRT include a signalized intersection at Indian Valley Trail and Pinewood Trail. Residents of Hampshire Crescent will have northbound access by turning around at this intersection. Similarly, vehicles that are headed northbound and wish to turn southbound can use an advance left-hand turn signal at Pinetree Way to head south on Hurontario Street.

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May 27, 2021 - 01:58

After get off from buses at Brampton Gateway connected to the LRT catching this train to Ray Lawson Stop going to work and be on time. Take us down to Square One in Mississauga.

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Metrolinx
Jun 7, 2021 - 09:35

Yes, the Hurontario LRT will be able to take you from Brampton Gateway Terminal to the Ray Lawson Stop, as well as to Square One via the City Centre Stop. You can check out the stops on the Hurontario LRT and find more information at metrolinx.com/HurontarioLRT. 

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May 27, 2021 - 15:21

With the reduced parking capacity at Port Credit Go, why are you keeping so many reserved spots??

Essential workers are restricted to a small portion of spots while the majority of reserved spots sit empty. Your solution is to drive to Clarkson and pay more for the commute or pay $98/month for a reserved spot?? Blatant cash grab for Metrolinx!! Is this how you accommodate the neighbourhood? What's your plan when restrictions ease and more people resume commuting to work?

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Metrolinx
May 31, 2021 - 09:44

Good morning and thank you for the question. Metrolinx has made a committment to those who had reserved spots that they would be available to them once travel and health restrictions are lifted. We are monitoring regularly and there are currently twice as many non-reserved spaces as there are reserved spaces at Port Credit GO, with parking available in both the South, West and North lots.

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May 27, 2021 - 15:30

Thank you answering our questions.

I'm sure there were many studies conducted looking at the net traffic impact for vehicles on Hurontario once the LRT is completed. Are you able to share with us any of those results/stats?

My curiosity/concerns stems from the reduction of traffic lanes from 3 to 2 in both directions, on one of the busiest roads in the 905 region. I understand that the slower throughput will hopefully be offset by the removal of vehicles over time by virtue of the improved public transportation infrastructure, but I am still curious what the net impact may look like for those that still rely on vehicles.

Thank you.

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Metrolinx
May 31, 2021 - 10:53

Thank you for your question. The HuLRT project will ease transportation impacts of high population and job growth rates throughout Mississauga and Brampton.

In order to accomodate the dedicated LRT route, two lanes of traffic plus turning lanes will be maintained along Hurontario Street, which will require adding a lane in each direction south of the Queensway. Currently during rush hour more than 50 MiWay and Züm buses travel along the curb lanes, all but a few local buses will be replaced by the Hurontario LRT.

An offline-capacity analysis report was completed to forecast 2031 with the LRT in service. It found that 29 intersections will have a "modest" increase (0-199 vehicles), 9 intersections will have a "moderate" increase (200-499 vehicles) and no intersections will have a "significant" increase (500+ vehicles) in vehicular numbers. The report also looks at traffic being directed to parallel north-south routes and provides information on what that looks like: http://www.metrolinx.com/en/projectsandprograms/projectpages/documents/H...

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May 27, 2021 - 21:02

What is the design for bike lanes along different sections of Hurontario? Will the bike lanes be separated from car traffic? What kind of segregation (bike lanes on a curb, concrete/planter barriers, flexible posts, etc..)?

Also how will the bike lanes cross the 403 and QEW? Will there be any kind of protection built-in to the road for cyclists and pedestrians in those areas?

Thank you

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Metrolinx
May 31, 2021 - 10:54

Thank you for the questions. The Hurontario LRT project will include raised and separated cycle tracks north of the Queensway on both sides of Hurontario Street and a multi-use trail on the east side south of the Queensway. For the 403 area, design is not yet final, however cycle tracks and a Multi-Use Pathway are proposed in this area. 

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May 28, 2021 - 15:06

Currently as a Brampton resident if I pay for a Brampton Transit fare, I can transfer to MiWay for free, but if I have a Brampton Transit monthly pass, then I don't get these transfers (as far as I know). Currently I can take the 502 to Square One with the Brampton Transit monthly pass, with the Hurontario LRT, will it also take the Brampton Transit monthly passes?

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Metrolinx
Jun 7, 2021 - 09:37

Thank you for your question. Final decisions on fares will be made closer to opening day, but the goal is to have the fare system for the LRT integrated as much as possible with both Brampton Transit and MiWay services. We can also confirm that PRESTO will be used on the LRT, similar to the other GTA agencies. 

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This is for the Mississauga south section. Example will South bound drivers on Hurontario be able to turn left onto Pinewood Trail?

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Metrolinx
Jun 1, 2021 - 08:10

 

Good morning, a visual guide of the traffic configuration can be found in our initial roll out map on out website here. Pinewood Trial will become a signalized intersection, southbound drivers will be able to turn left onto the road.

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May 29, 2021 - 22:43

Thanks for your answer to an earlier question. However, there was a part two of the question that was unaswered. How will somone access Hampshire Crescent when coming northbound from Lakeshore Road?

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Metrolinx
Jun 1, 2021 - 08:03

Good morning, vehicles that are headed northbound along Hurontario Street will be able to use an advance left-hand turn signal at Pinetree Way to head south to Hampshire Crescent.

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May 31, 2021 - 17:52

Hello,

Could you please describe the traffic impact during the construction phase? Where there are currently 3 lanes each way (6 total for both direction), how many lanes will be reduced to accommodate construction?

Thank you.

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Metrolinx
Jun 9, 2021 - 15:12

As with any large transit project, vehicle traffic will be impacted during different stages of construction, but every effort will be made to minimize disruption. Safety is our number one priority and plans are in place to protect those working inside our work zones as well as those travelling around them. Motorists, cyclists and pedestrians will be advised of traffic pattern changes in advance (with enough time) to allow safe and appropriate routing change decisions. 

To stay up to date on traffic impacts of the Hurontario LRT construction, follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram or sign up for our monthly newsletter at [email protected].  

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Jun 2, 2021 - 04:07

Hi there. With the addition of more signalled intersections to allow access to sidestreets/u-turns, vehicle traffic flow will certainly be impeded by more red lights. Will there be any consideration for implementing flashing yellow lights on Hurontario (and flashing red lights for those exiting a side street) at certain lower-volume intersections and at lower-volume times (ex. Overnight) to minimize delays? Ontario MTO has flashing yellow mentioned in the road rules but I have not seen it implemented anywhere really.. and I believe it's a common model in the USA and been implemented in certain Cdn provinces (ex https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-traffic-lights-p...)

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Metrolinx
Jun 9, 2021 - 15:14

Thank you for the question. Signal timings and traffic lights are managed by the municipalities, we will pass this suggestion to our partners at City of Mississauga and City of Brampton.
 

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serve square one? How will that benefit us tax payers

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Metrolinx
Jun 9, 2021 - 15:15

Project scope modifications, including removing the loop, were made to relieve potential budgetary pressures and to remove the requirement to transfer if going north or south of Mississauga city centre. The Hurontario LRT will continue to connect with the City Centre GO Bus and MiWay bus terminals on Rathburn.  Provisions have been made in the contract language to adapt to changing community needs, which may include an eventual completion of the loop.

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Jun 23, 2021 - 14:03

What mitigations does Metrolinx have in place when there is a brown out/black out occurs and the Hurontario LRT stops? (ex Extra Buses? Gas powered locomotives that can hitch on, people simply told to switch to existing bus routes?) When a power failure does occur, how long will dispatch wait until the decision is made to deploy the alternate/mitigation options?

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Metrolinx
Jun 29, 2021 - 14:58

In case of a small brown out or if power goes out in one area, the other power stations along the corridor will support the system and LRT service will continue as normal. In a larger power outage (i.e. if the power supply for all of Mississauga was lost) LRT service will be stopped and buses will be brought in to help passengers complete their journey. Response time may vary depending on the situation. We continue to work on the details of LRT operations with our municipal partners, the cities of Mississauga and Brampton, and will have further details closer to when the LRT is in operation.

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Anonymous
Jun 26, 2021 - 17:15

Personally, I think it's best that Cooksville station has an indoor GO connection so that passengers can connect seamlessly even in the rain. So I suggest that Cooksville station should be underground.

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Metrolinx
Jul 6, 2021 - 14:37

Thank you for your interest in the Hurontario LRT project. Transit riders at onboarding/offboarding at Cooksville GO will be able to cross at the pedestrian crosswalk and use either the John Street extension or the pedestrian walkway on the north side of the rail bridge.
 

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Jun 26, 2021 - 17:18

Besides the below-grade Port Credit station, are there any elevated stations on the line?

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Metrolinx
Jul 2, 2021 - 09:47

Good morning and thank you for reaching out. The Port Credit GO Station stop is the only below grade stop along the alignment. All other stop are at grade, or street level. 

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Jun 27, 2021 - 14:00

I think it's best that both Cooksville and Brampton Gateway stations be underground, while City Centre is elevated so that all 3 stations I mentioned can have an indoor connection

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Metrolinx
Jul 6, 2021 - 14:38

Thank you for your interest in the Hurontario LRT project. All stops along the HuLRT, with the exception of Port Credit GO, will be at grade. Stop locations for the Hurontario LRT were identified through the Hurontario-Main Street Corridor Master Plan study conducted between 2008 and 2010 by the cities of Mississauga and Brampton. The Plan included extensive studies on future development in each city and the resulting impacts on transportation. The Hurontario LRT will arrive every 7.5 minutes during rush hour, eliminating the need to wait for a train!

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Does the train continue after the station at Port Credit to below Lakeshore and then come back or can you explain if the train stops at the Credit station ie/tracks go no further? thanks

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Metrolinx
Jul 21, 2021 - 11:29

Thank you for the question. The Alstom Citadis Spirit vehicle operates in both directions. Once passengers have loaded the train, it will change directions and begin to move northbound. 

There is no current plan to extend the tracks further south to connect with Lakeshore, though the Port Credit Station design does protect for that possibility in the future.

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Jul 26, 2021 - 15:02

What are the expected travel times in-between stops/stations for the LRT - factoring in average speed, traffic lights, time spent at stops/stations, emergency stops, technical issues? Are there going to be service level agreements in place?
Do you have an estimate of how much a trip will cost? Will it be a flat cost to ride, or will it depend on the station you enter/exit at?

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Metrolinx
Aug 4, 2021 - 16:59

Thank you for your questions and interest in the Hurontario LRT project.
In LRT systems, speed is determined by spacing between stops and the dwell time at stops. The Hurontario LRT will run above ground and is separated from regular traffic, but with 7.5 minutes between trains in peak times (and 10 minutes in off-peak periods), running at or close to the current speed limit will allow for the safest headway. Speeds will be confirmed and refined during the design process.
Final decisions on fares will also be made closer to opening day, but the goal is to have the fare system for the LRT integrated as much as possible with both Brampton Transit and MiWay services. We can also confirm that PRESTO will be used on the LRT, similar to the other GTA agencies. Service Level Agreements will be determined in collaboration with our municipal partners in the later stages of the project. Stay tuned!

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