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Anonymous's avatar

I know this study is specifically about grade separations, but please please please consider putting in official pedestrian crossings, be they grade level or separated, in places where people already can't help trespassing.

For instance on the Barrie line, at Bridgeland Avenue and Floral Parkway. I hope you'll agree that it's crazy that someone could live a few metres from their job across the tracks, but have to walk over 3 km to get there legally.

Metrolinx's avatar

Thank you for sharing your comments regarding the proposed Wellington Street East Grade Separation in the Town of Aurora, and for your suggestions regarding pedestrian crossings on the Barrie corridor. The grade separation project is in the very early stages of the environmental assessment and design. Metrolinx is conducting studies to determine the impact of the proposed grade separation on the local environment and mobility patterns.  

Metrolinx is focused on increasing first and last mile connections for pedestrians, cyclists, transit users and carpoolers to GO Stations, as this is a priority action outlined in Metrolinx's 2041 Regional Transportation Plan

There will be future opportunities to learn more about the various projects happening across the region. Please email [email protected] if you would like to be added to the regional distribution list to receive further updates or invitations pertaining to Metrolinx projects in York Region.

Barry Bridgeford's avatar
Feb 25, 2020 - 15:03

I attended the open house of February 24th, 2020 in Aurora. Only one of many illustrated panels referred to the Wellington Street (Aurora) grade separation. And unfortunately, the video-slide presentation did not include an architect's rendering of the Wellington Street grade separation.

I engaged a number of the Metrolinx staff in separate conversations concerning limitations on the vehicular carrying capacity of the roadway's cross-section as presented. The Metrolinx policy was explained as replicating existing conditions in their initial concept plans. Since the stretch of Wellington in the vicinity of the planned grade separation is presently one lane in each direction with a central turn-lane, this is what Metrolinx considers appropriate to incorporate into the grade separation.

I asked them to consider a macro view of Aurora, its bisection by the rail line and its dependence on viable east-west traffic flow. I explained that Aurora's older section is located west of the tracks. Its newer section is located east of the tracks. The Wellington Street rail-crossing area is presently already a bottle-neck. Many local roads converge from the north and south to funnel across the tracks at this crossing, in close proximity to the additional vehicular congestion resulting from the parking-related activity associated with the Metrolinx train station.

Numerous trans-Aurora east-west drivers already use St John's Sideroad and Elgelhard Drive to the north and south, to avoid the bottle-neck on Wellington Street. However, once the Metrolinx weekday two-directional 15 minute frequency trains occur, these east-west roads will experience pronounced slowdowns. This will pressure many drivers to use the grade separation at Wellington, thereby increasing its volumes well beyond current levels.

Since Metrolinx already negatively impacts the traffic volumes of Wellington by its train station and associated parking traffic, and since Metrolinx will be negatively impacting the carrying capacity of Aurora's at-grade crossings and thereby increasing traffic volumes on Wellington Street East even further, it only stands to reason that the capacity of the Wellington grade separation has to be increased by additional full-time lanes .. providing at least two lanes in each direction!

To simply recreate the present bottle-neck and to expect it to handle the increased volumes of coming decades, along with the redirected traffic from our impacted at-grade crossings, will surely choke Aurora down its center! Can Metrolinx please commit to providing sufficient vehicular traffic capacity in its Wellington Street (Aurora) grade separation?

Metrolinx's avatar

Thank you for sharing your comments regarding the proposed Wellington Street East Grade Separation in the Town of Aurora. This project is in the very early stages of the environmental assessment and design. Metrolinx is conducting studies, including Traffic Impact Assessment, to determine the impact of the proposed grade separation on the local environment and mobility patterns. The results of these studies, and any proposed mitigation measures, will be presented to the public at future Open Houses. Please email [email protected] if you would like to be added to the regional distribution list to receive further updates or invitations pertaining to Metrolinx projects in York Region.

Barry Bridgeford's avatar
Feb 26, 2020 - 03:52

Please refer to original Metrolinx document at ...
https://www.metrolinxengage.com/sites/default/files/aurora_consultation_...

Page 8 of 11 - The inspection elements of this PDF file indicate that it was last modified on January 3rd of 2018. The PDF file's name is “Metrolinx-Aurora_consultation_board_v3”, indicating its the result of a consultation. This page indicates that at the time of the file's creation, the Environmental Assessment (EA) was scheduled for late 2019. Conversations with Metrolinx staff at the Feb 25, 2020 open house indicated that the Environmental assessment will now be commencing in the coming months.

Page 9 of 11 - The pending Environmental Assessment's second component “Socio-Economic Environment” includes Traffic and Transportation. The comment “Residents and businesses along the study area will be contacted upon commencement.” indicates that Metrolinx may be used to consulting only with parties in close proximity to the project. If this is so, Metrolinx may not be recognizing the impact of their project on the entire town-wide area.

Page 10 of 11 – This is the original Metrolinx consultant's concept of the appropriate underpass profile. It clearly indicates it should be “wide enough to accommodate four lanes of traffic, two in each direction”. While it states “subject to change based on public and municipal input during the EA process”, it is important to recognize that that input has not yet occurred! While the illustration shows only one lane in each direction, it clearly adds “Provision for Future 4-lane Expansion”. So even in the early stages of the consultation process, it was deemed appropriate to include sufficient width for four lanes. It appears that Metrolinx has now adopted a position of only wanting to replace what is currently there.

Page 11 of 11 – Either Metrolinx's use of the term “Community Advisory Committee” is a coincidental duplicate use of the name of the already existing Town of Aurora Community Advisory Committee, or they hope to have that already existing town's Community Advisory Committee take on that function. As a serving member of the town's Community Advisory Committee, I haven't received any formal notice of the committee being assigned that function.

Why isn't Metrolinx sticking to their originally consulted 4-lane concept?

Metrolinx's avatar

Thank you for sharing your comments regarding the proposed Wellington Street East Grade Separation in the Town of Aurora.

Regarding your comment about page 8 of 11 - The Public Information Centres (PICs) held in February 2020 were the first public consultations held for the OnCorridor program, which includes infrastructure improvements across the GO rail network including the proposed Wellington Grade Separation. Metrolinx is incorporating feedback received at these PICs into environmental project reports (EPRs) and related addenda’s. There will also be future opportunities to provide comment on more advanced designs and results of environmental studies. A Notice of EPR Addenda will also be circulated prior to commencement of the official 30-day public review process for the proposed Wellington Grade Separation. Further information on the schedule for this project, including the Notice, will be provided at future PICs.

Regarding your comment about page 9 of 11 - In preparation for the February 2020 PICs, Metrolinx contacted residents within 100 m of each side of the rail corridor through mailers, posted newspaper and radio ads throughout the GTHA. In addition, residents and businesses that were initially identified to have property impacts by the proposed Wellington Street East Grade Separation through the initial concept design phase were also contacted. A similar notification approach will be used for all future PICs to ensure the public is appropriately informed.

Regarding your comment about page 10 of 11 - Throughout the initial design phase of the project, Metrolinx has (and continues to be) working with municipal and regional stakeholders to gain input on the design and impacts to local areas. As environmental and traffic studies are ongoing, the design is still in draft phase. Further information will be presented to the public at future PICs, once these studies have been completed and any mitigation measures identified.

Regarding your comment about page 11 of 11 - Metrolinx establishes Community Advisory Committees (CAC) to advise on local impacts of infrastructure projects. Examples include the Lakeshore East CAC and the Davenport Diamond CAC. These CACs are typically established during the detailed design phase of the project.

A summary of the public feedback received at the February 2020 PICs, copies of the public materials distributed in advance and the boards shown will be available on MetrolinxEngage.com. Please email [email protected] if you would like to be added to the regional distribution list to receive further updates or invitations pertaining to Metrolinx projects in York Region.

Anonymous's avatar
Feb 26, 2020 - 07:35

Will there be provisions to improve cycling to the Aurora Go Station with these changes and the grade separated. Currently from the east - there really is no legitimate way for cyclists to access the station? Most cyclists that I see ride on the sidewalk!

Metrolinx's avatar
Jun 8, 2020 - 09:25

Thank you for sharing your comments regarding the proposed Wellington Street East Grade Separation in the Town of Aurora. This project is in the very early stages of the environmental assessment and design. Metrolinx is conducting studies, including Traffic Impact Assessment, to determine the impact of the proposed grade separation on the local environment and mobility patterns. It should be noted a component of the traffic assessment is pedestrian flow and potential connectivity.

Furthermore, Metrolinx is focused on increasing first and last mile connections for pedestrians, cyclists, transit users and carpoolers to GO Stations, as this is a priority action outlined in Metrolinx's 2041 Regional Transportation Plan.

There will be future opportunities to learn more about the various projects happening across the region. Please email [email protected] if you would like to be added to the regional distribution list to receive further updates or invitations pertaining to Metrolinx projects in York Region.

Anonymous's avatar

I agree with Barry Bridgeford questions/ comments and add the following:

Why are you hiding the fact that Metrolinx is going to close the town's Centre Street roadway which in north of Wellington Street?
Is Metrolinx going to build a new bridge on Centre Street?
If not, what compensation will you offer the Town of Aurora/ residents?
How is Metrolinx going to connect to their future parking lot on Scanlon Court?
What about the timing on a future bridge at St. John's Sideroad and other crossings in Aurora?
Where are the traffic impact studies and the impacts related to all these level crossings when 15 minutes service becomes a reality?
Why weren't cycling and pedestrian facilities incorporated within both west and east sides of Yonge Street where GO crosses just south of Henderson Drive?
How are the Town's new southern Yonge Street communities going to connect, via car only? Isn't this a conflict with Metrolinx's mandate?
Why isn't it the long term goal to build the Yonge North Subway Extension all the way to Newmarket? When you start digging the hole at Steeles keep going and build the future stations later? Where is the vision? Our economy is based on growth and we need to start thinking for our future generations when we are all gone.

The rail corridor has cut the Town of Aurora in half and as a minimum we need the trail crossings as note in the Town's trail master plan.
See the link at https://trainsinthevalley.org/northampton-underpass/ for an example of what should be built in Aurora by Metrolinx now!!
Why does Metrolinx state on other parts of their web site that "Priority: Ensure safety and pedestrian/ cycling connections across the corridor" and then propose no cycling facilities on the new Wellington bridge structure?

I have heard that the new Rutherford Road Bridge/ GO Station will incorporate 4 m wide pedestrian and cycling facilities on both sides of the new bridge structure in addition to an exclusive pedestrian/ cycling bridge across the roadway with LED street lighting that links beautifully into the new station, so what gives for the bridges on Wellington and McNaughton? Where are the street scaping elements and pedestrian/ cycling links that need to be incorporated within both bridge structures? Both bridges are in/ next to heritage districts and should incorporate heritage elements and LED street lighting!!

Metrolinx needs to think about the last mile and we cannot continue to build parking lots. If Metrolinx needs money, than why don't you build some beautiful condos to hid these proposed ugly parking lots which at the same time could help you offset some of these capital costs??
And finally, build the four lane roadway as originally proposed and if you still require money, please visit the federal government who is now collecting the carbon tax to help you pay for these important long term investments.

On another note, Metolinx should consider moving their head office to Aurora as part of the solution to our traffic problems in the GTA. Decentralized government agencies and other companies from downtown Toronto will help employment and other city building initiatives in the Region as part of our overall traffic solution to live and work within our communities. Senior executives and local/ provincial/ federal politicians are you listening? If you give people a choice, they would work closer to home!!

Metrolinx's avatar

Thank you for sharing your comments regarding the proposed Wellington Street East Grade Separation in the Town of Aurora. This project is in the very early stages of the environmental assessment and design. Metrolinx is conducting studies to determine the impact of the proposed grade separation on the local environment and mobility patterns. This includes traffic impact assessment, socio-economic and land use, and heritage studies to ensure that impacts of the proposed grade separation are appropriately mitigated.  It should be noted a component of the traffic assessment is pedestrian flow and potential connectivity. Design Excellence in terms of street and landscape elements will also be considered and further developed during the detailed design process. Once these studies and the design is further progressed, the public will be notified and more information will be shared at a following PIC.

Furthermore, Metrolinx is focused on increasing first and last mile connections for pedestrians, cyclists, transit users and carpoolers to GO Stations, as this is a priority action outlined in Metrolinx's 2041 Regional Transportation Plan. 

There will be future opportunities to learn more about the various projects happening across the region. Please email us at [email protected] if you would like to be added to the regional distribution list to receive further updates or invitations pertaining to Metrolinx projects in York Region. 

Anonymous's avatar

Why is Aurora being treated so poorly by Metrolinx? Did you treat Toronto infrastructure improvements the same way? We are so disappointed that our community is being treated with an environmental assessment that seems to be rushed just to get something done without looking at the entire community and its impacts. We welcome the right expansion that is balanced, provides for future growth, respects heritage and a design that includes pedestrians, cyclists, car owners, local public transit and streetscaping/ landscaping elements. Where is the local transit hub loop/ terminal that buses would use to pick up and drop off commuters? Are you going to have bike boxes for cyclists? Can you also built some trail crossing over/ under the tracks as noted by other residents below? Will we be able to get an additional discount if we cycle or take the bus to the GO station? We expect better design in Aurora, please do not disappoint residents as we may be small but we know how to fight!!

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Metrolinx
Aug 19, 2020 - 09:34

Thank you for sharing your comments regarding the proposed Wellington Street East Grade Separation in the Town of Aurora. This project is in the very early stages of the environmental assessment and design. Metrolinx is conducting studies, including Traffic Impact Assessment, to determine the impact of the proposed grade separation on the local environment and mobility patterns. It should be noted a component of the traffic assessment is pedestrian flow and potential connectivity.

Furthermore, Metrolinx is focused on increasing first and last mile connections for pedestrians, cyclists, transit users and carpoolers to GO Stations, as this is a priority action outlined in Metrolinx's 2041 Regional Transportation Plan.

There will be future opportunities to learn more about the various projects happening across the region. Please email [email protected] if you would like to be added to the regional distribution list to receive further updates or invitations pertaining to Metrolinx projects in York Region

Anonymous's avatar
Aug 18, 2020 - 23:29

Currently, I understand that the section between Barrie South and Allandale GO stations is without proper signaling which means trains are restricted in speed. When will this be remedied . .. meaning likely a potential 3-5 minute savings in travel time from Allandale GO station?

Metrolinx's avatar
Nov 13, 2020 - 15:49

Thank you for your question.

This section of track is already signalled. Time saving opportunities are being reviewed in our current schedules, as well as future infrastructure enhancements.  

For more information please contact us here.

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Anonymous
Aug 19, 2020 - 07:06

Has there been any consideration given to adding a bicycle car to all the GO train routes similar to European trains? This will allow cycle-commuting when we get off at our designated stations.

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Metrolinx
Aug 19, 2020 - 17:15

Thank you for providing your feedback and we will take this to our planning team as we continue to look for new ways to better serve our customers. We do have an existing policy and encourage customers to bring bicycles on our trains outside of rush hour. Our entire GO Bus fleet is also equipped with bike racks ready to use at any time for no extra charge. It is important to note space and availability is first come first serve.

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Anonymous
Aug 19, 2020 - 09:07

Great news regarding all the rail line improvements. If I'm reading the information correctly am I to assume NO improvements to the Milton or Kitchener line?

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Metrolinx
Aug 25, 2020 - 13:21

Hello and thanks for your feedback.

 

Metrolinx does not own the Milton corridor and two-way, all-day service along the Milton GO line depends on our negotiations with our rail partner, Canadian Pacific (CP). We continue to work with our rail partner to bring as much passenger service to the Milton GO line wherever and whenever possible. We can’t wait to bring you more service. When it’s completely in place and we are ready, an announcement will be made.

 

Metrolinx does own part of the Kitchener corridor while some of the ownership belongs to our other rail partner, Canadian National (CN). We have been able to increase service on the Kitchener corridor recently through successful negotiations with CN and we will continue to work with our rail partner to bring more service on the Kitchener GO line. As such, we recently completed the Initial Business Case for expansion on the line which sets forth strategies on the best way to bring more service to the corridor. Additionally, we are currently working on the Transit Project Assessment Process (TPAP) to electrify the corridor between Georgetown and Kitchener.

 

Please stay tuned for developments regarding more service on these corridors.

Anonymous's avatar

Has Metrolinx decided to increase the lane width to the originally recommended 4 lanes (2 in each direction), or is it still holding to its revised position that they are now only prepared to replace what is there now (one in each direction and a west-bound center turn-lane)? Please refer to my earlier Feb. 25th and 26th comments.

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Metrolinx
Sep 2, 2020 - 10:13

Thank you for sharing your comments regarding the proposed Wellington Street East Grade Separation in the Town of Aurora.

This project is in the very early stages of the environmental assessment and design. Throughout the initial design phase of the project, Metrolinx has (and continues to) work with Municipal and Regional stakeholders to gain input on the design and impacts to local areas. As environmental and traffic studies are ongoing, the design is still in draft phase. Metrolinx is conducting studies, including a Traffic Impact Assessment, to determine the impact of the proposed grade separation on the local environment and mobility patterns. The results of these studies, and any proposed mitigation measures, will be presented to the public at future Open Houses.

Please email [email protected] if you would like to be added to the regional distribution list to receive further updates or invitations pertaining to Metrolinx projects in York Region.

Anonymous's avatar

Anonymous
Aug 20, 2020 - 11:57

When you say "network-wide" does that include the Milton and Kitchener Line. You improvement map shows no work or improvements on these two lines?

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Metrolinx
Aug 25, 2020 - 13:20

Hello and thanks for your feedback.

 

Metrolinx does not own the Milton corridor and two-way, all-day service along the Milton GO line depends on our negotiations with our rail partner, Canadian Pacific (CP). We continue to work with our rail partner to bring as much passenger service to the Milton GO line wherever and whenever possible. We can’t wait to bring you more service. When it’s completely in place and we are ready, an announcement will be made.

 

Metrolinx does own part of the Kitchener corridor while some of the ownership belongs to our other rail partner, Canadian National (CN). We have been able to increase service on the Kitchener corridor recently through successful negotiations with CN and we will continue to work with our rail partner to bring more service on the Kitchener GO line. As such, we recently completed the Initial Business Case for expansion on the line which sets forth strategies on the best way to bring more service to the corridor. Additionally, we are currently working on the Transit Project Assessment Process (TPAP) to electrify the corridor between Georgetown and Kitchener.

 

Please stay tuned for developments regarding more service on these corridors.

Jebuck1's avatar
Aug 23, 2020 - 07:32

I don’t see any reference to the above project in this TPAP overview. Am I missing something?

This is a project broadly supported by the (very) well-populated community in the Humber Bay Area and there is a development proposal in review to build additional residential and office space at the Lake Shore & Park Lawn intersection, with a GO station as a central feature. So, where is MetroLinx in this process?

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Metrolinx
Aug 25, 2020 - 10:31

First Capital REIT is proposing the new Park Lawn GO Station and Transit Hub as part of its redevelopment plan for the entire Mr. Christie site. This project is not under the GO Expansion project scope.

We are currently completing the pre-planning work for the Environmental Assessment on the proposed Park Lawn GO Station in order to assess potential impacts from the project. The EA is being conducted in accordance with the Transit Project Assessment Process, a process routinely used for transit projects in Ontario.

Anonymous's avatar
Aug 26, 2020 - 10:24

Last town hall I attended in fall 2019 had 2 options for McNaughton, an overpass (recommended by design team) and an underpass. When will a formal presentation of the two options be conducted so York Region residents can give insight? My main concern with an overpass is that the McNaughton parking lot exit will be closed permanently forcing more vehicles to Eagle Rock Way or to the already overly crowded Hill Street (both have residential housing/apartments).

Additionally, when is the construction targeted to begin/be completed?

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Metrolinx
Sep 2, 2020 - 10:12

Thank you for sharing your comments regarding the proposed McNaughton Road Grade Separation in the City of Vaughan.

Metrolinx presented information related to only a road overpass at the public consultation in February 2020.To view this material, please visit: https://www.metrolinxengage.com/sites/default/files/proposed_infrastructure_station_-_go_expansion_feb_2020_network_structures.pdf

This project is an addendum to a previously conducted transit project assessment process (TPAP) – the 2017 Barrie Rail Corridor Expansion environmental project report (EPR). This EPR was approved by the Ministry of Environment and Climate Change in 2017 and examined the rationale for a grade separation at the intersection of McNaughton Road and the Metrolinx rail corridor. In 2019, Metrolinx conducted an options analysis to determine the appropriate type of grade separation (overpass or underpass). This analysis was undertaken against key considerations associated with impacts to stakeholders, local setting, aesthetics/ public realm, property impacts, utilities, engineering constraints, environment, operations and maintenance, capital costs and economic cost/ benefits. The results of this analysis concluded that a road overpass is the most appropriate option considering the aforementioned factors. One of the significant factors inhibiting the road underpass is the groundwater levels in the area, which would result in significant excavation and dewatering that could have impacts to the local groundwater regime. This would also result in additional infrastructure requirements, including pumping stations and associated utilities that would have additional property impacts. The underpass option would also require a track diversion, which would result in additional property impacts. Please note Metrolinx will work with the municipality to include patterned form liners for retaining walls, as well as a landscaping and planting strategy for the sloped embankment, to soften any visual impacts to the residential properties.

This project is in the early stages of the environmental assessment addendum and design. The next steps include finalizing the procurement process and moving into detailed design. The estimated construction year is 2024.

There will be future opportunities to learn more about the various projects happening across the region. Please email [email protected] if you would like to be added to the regional distribution list to receive further updates or invitations pertaining to Metrolinx projects in York Region.

Matt's avatar

I live near Coxwell station. To get downtown I could go to Main station and take the GO, but then I have to pay twice so it doesn't make sense. Will there be an integration of TTC and GO so that people can use the most efficient train without being punished? Can we completely integrate them, calling the Lakeshore East "Line A" (other GO train lines B, C, D to match the TTC Line 1, Line 2... ). Payment zones do make sense, of course, for longer distance GO trains. This is how they did it in Paris. Why not Toronto?

Metrolinx's avatar

Metrolinx will be bringing forward solutions in the near future to help our customers travel through the region using different methods of transit.

Since 2018, Metrolinx has introduced programs such as Kids GO Free, Sunday Funday and lowered short-distance fares for GO Transit. Metrolinx has also increased service on GO Transit by 33% in the last two years.

Metrolinx and the Ministry of Transportation will continue to work collaboratively with all of its municipal partners, towards more accessible and affordable transit across the region.

Matt's avatar

I live near Coxwell station. To get downtown I could go to Main station and take the GO, but then I have to pay twice so it doesn't make sense. Will there be an integration of TTC and GO so that people can use the most efficient train without being punished? Can we completely integrate them, calling the Lakeshore East "Line A" (other GO train lines B, C, D to match the TTC Line 1, Line 2... ). Payment zones do make sense, of course, for longer distance GO trains. This is how they did it in Paris. Why not Toronto?

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Metrolinx
Nov 25, 2020 - 13:51

Metrolinx will be bringing forward solutions in the near future to help our customers travel through the region using different methods of transit.

Since 2018, Metrolinx has introduced programs such as Kids GO Free, Sunday Funday and lowered short-distance fares for GO Transit. Metrolinx has also increased service on GO Transit by 33% in the last two years.

Metrolinx and the Ministry of Transportation will continue to work collaboratively with all of its municipal partners, towards more accessible and affordable transit across the region.