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John Moore's avatar

A single fare for any transit option (GO, TTC, UP Express) within the 416 would go a long way to improving transit usage within Toronto. The current mix of fares even with a TTC discount is an impediment to transit use.

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In recent years there have been many complaints about some of the TTC's traditional 4-wall shelters being replaced with 1-wall shelters as protection form wind and precipitation is minimal. I was very surprised to learn that similar shelters which will only have 1 complete wall will be used on the surface stops of the Crosstown LRT. Other surface rapid transit projects in the region including the comparable Waterloo ION LRT as well as the Mississauga Transitway and VIVA Rapidways all have enclosed waiting areas. Is it not possible to provide maximum protection from the elements for future transit riders, making transit a more attractive option?

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Leo's avatar

Has Metrolinx ever considered the mode of the Relief Line to be GO Trains? A heavy rail tunnel underneath Queen Street would provide the core of the Downtown Core with GO service that would otherwise all go to Union Station. A GO tunnel would have stations much closer to where people work and provide much needed relief for Union Station. Having all the lines serve both the Union Station corridor and the downtown tunnel would provide great coverage of stations for commuters.

In addition to running underneath Queen Street, the GO tunnel could follow the existing planned route for the Relief Line South and the general routing of the Relief Line North to connect with the Richmond Hill GO Line, avoiding the Don Valley altogether and removing the need for flood protection, solving two problems with one solution. This results in a second North-South GO corridor, in addition to the Barrie corridor, that will provide relief to the TTC's Line 1.

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kitigan's avatar
Apr 19, 2018 - 13:18

1: POST CONSTRUCTION ... comments have been made by Metrolinx staff that the parking at Oriole will disappear, and the station will be pedestrian use only. is this true?

2: Will the transfer of the loading are to the North be permanent, and if so why.... if not when will it return to the south

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Kitchener line is too crowded. I arrive 15 minutes before the 4:50 train and have to push my way in through the doors to stand in the aisle.
Can there not be another express train that goes further? Like to Georgetown?
Kitchener train also seems to hold at stations for a long period of time ie: 6:04 am, stops at Guelph for 5 min, Georgetown 3 or 4 min, Bramalae another 4 min etc. Can the timing be better? Thank you.

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The minister promised it by 2017. The EA was completed in 2016. The line was built 'electrification ready'. There is no issue with the Union Station train shed as the UP trains do not enter the shed. No work has begun, no trains are on order, and pollution continues to spew from the trains. The trains do not even shut off their engines at the termini and idle for at least 1600 minutes each day at Union and somewhat less at Pearson.

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T_'s avatar
Apr 19, 2018 - 13:18

An earlier question asked whether Metrolinx had plans to serve communities north of Barrie. Metrolinx replied "Our provincially mandated service area is within the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area".
This is odd, because the Metrolinx Act makes no mentioned of Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area; the ministerial mandate letter (November 2016) has no language that excludes areas outside the GTHA; and GO Transit's service area (both in fact and per Ontario regulation 189/09) includes a number of municipalities outside the GTHA (including both Barrie and Simcoe County).

Given all this, could Metrolinx please clarify how and why its role varies between the GTHA and areas just outside it?

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Andrew D.'s avatar

Most developed cities allow travellers to buy an inexpensive pass that covers all forms of public transportation in a given region, and to purchase single tickets that get one directly between two points. In some cases, such as London, this covers multiple organizations, including private corporations. Yet in Ontario, if one wants to get from Toronto to a neighbouring town, one will need to purchase tickets from at least three different agencies, none of which work with each other, even though they are all funded by the same taxpayers. Prices can vary wildly based on whether one takes TTC, GO Transit, or VIA Rail to get to a particular point. It's both simpler and cheaper in most cases to rent a car and add to the congestion, especially when travelling with other people. Would Metrolinx consider co-ordinating with these other bodies to create a unified national (or at least provincial) ticketing structure for public transport?

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mmcclory_6312's avatar

The alternate bus platform requires an adequate shelter solution. Passengers are getting soaked as they wait for and board busses. The piddly bus shelters provided do not address the issue.
The platform is too small. To access busses further down, Passengers have to walk on the roadway at times to avoid the crowds of line ups.
Installing an electronic bus schedule at the exit to the alternative platform would enable passengers to hold off entering the elements until their bus is due.
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I first addressed these issues in January.
*One additional shelter was to be installed. Perhaps it has been however people continue to get soaked as they wait for busses.
*Still, no electronic schedule has been placed at the exit and what remains there is a monitor displaying the routes on the alternative platform as well as information not relavent to the matter at hand.
Metrolinx would not get away with this in a more affluent community.

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The proposed increase in rail traffic will see a dramatic rise in the number of trains passing through many residential areas. Why are sound abatement walls not being installed where the tracks abut residential properties?

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I understand that Barrie will get half hour train service in 2025, the question is, can there be one express train added to the Barrie line prior that. The journey currently takes 1h50 mins. Is it possible to have a train that runs from Barrie to new market and then skips every station to Union? Just to reduce a two hour journey to 1 hour. We need something in the meanwhile as the double tracks get built. 2025 is 7 years away and the city could use better transit access to Toronto now.

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Apr 19, 2018 - 14:39

Why doesn't the go train go from Kingston to Niagara at least 4 times a day - to start? So many people would choose it over driving the qew 401 gauntlet. And local buses to be timed to meet each train. The go should replace via in the golden horseshoe and run much more frequently. All go trains should run beyond rush hour. Not just business people would like the alternative to car travel.
Do not charge a fee for parking at go stations. That is penalizing commuters, most of whom would rather live in the city of it decided to promote affordable housing. You can't get blood out of a stone.

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Eddy's avatar

Why is the GO/TTC Metropass sticker program not being expanded to other stations, like Milliken or Scarborough, which would provide a lot more mobility to Scarborough residents at minimal cost? (the current pricing is 2-3 TTC fares, which discourages ridership)

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Whitby area is expanding so much in housing, may be a lot of new houses will come up and the population will go up really fast. I am sure the existing trains to and fro from Union to Whitby will be filled over the capacity. Are you hoping to introduce more frequent trains especially in the rush hours? As well increase the # and frequency of GO bus services in the Whitby area?

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Metrolinx's studies included instructions to consultants to consider fare by speed as part of the criteria for fare integration. You referenced the TTC's premium express buses as somehow indicative that TTC already had a premium for speed. Yet those are but a minuscule fraction of the total and serve a very exclusive clientele. The goal seems to be to charge a premium for speed, including the speed of the subway, which will serve as yet another barrier to the poor of this city. It, and fare by distance, will serve as a deterrent to the labour mobility in this city, made possible in part by a single fare system. Has Metrolinx studied the effect on labour mobility caused by charging extra fares for distance and extra fares for speed?

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US's avatar

Cooksville station services the most number of passengers. With the expansion at that station, will one or two trips every morning be introduced to start here to ensure people have a better option to the crowded rush hour trains in the morning?

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As part of the Electrification plans and new GO Transit Stations; how has Metrolinx incorporated the proposed 'Rail Deck Park' that Toronto council is reviewing.

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Apr 19, 2018 - 14:33

1. When will the shelter issue on the alternate bus platform at Kennedy Stn be resolved? People continue to get soaked as they wait for and board busses. The piddly bus shelters do not address the issue adequately.
2. The platform is too narrow... there are times that the passengers have to walk on the roadway to access the busses further down. Safety issue.
3. Lastly, when will an electronic bus schedule be placed at the exit to the alternate platform? This would enable the passengers the option to enter lashing rain as their busses are arriving as opposed to getting totally drenched as they wait.

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alexanderip1003@gmail.com's avatar

To address the snack and food shortage in Toronto Union Station GO Transit should include Dining Car on GO Trains so passengers can get a bite to eat

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alexanderip1003@gmail.com's avatar

To Address the Snack and Food shortage at Toronto Union Station I suggest adding a Dining car with GO Transit Trains or a service Galley in the Intermediate Level on GO Transit Coaches so passengers can get a bite to eat(Service Galley is located on every *3 coaches)

*Diagram
Coach 1/12 Seating area
Coach 2/12 Seating area
Coach 3/12 Service Galley
Coach 4/12 Seating area
Coach 5/12 Seating area
Coach 6/12 Service Galley
Coach 7/12 Seating area
Coach 8/12 Seating area
Coach 9/12 Service Galley
Coach 10/12 Seating area
Coach 11/12 Seating area
Coach 12/12 Service Galley

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T_'s avatar
Apr 19, 2018 - 13:09

1) Please could you clearly list the previous Town Halls somewhere on the 'Metrolinx Engage' website. (If this is done already, then that suggests it is not clear)
2) Where questions were answered during the Town Hall session, Metrolinx has posted a response saying "please see the Town Hall video". Could Metrolinx please say roughly where in the video? (Otherwise, the questioner has to watch the whole video!).

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Metrolinx Social's avatar
Apr 20, 2018 - 08:57

Michele M. (via Facebook) asks:
1. When will the shelter issue on the alternate bus platform at Kennedy Stn be resolved? People continue to get soaked as they wait for and board busses. The piddly bus shelters do not address the issue adequately.

2. The platform is too narrow... there are times that the passengers have to walk on the roadway to access the busses further down. Safety issue.

3. Lastly, when will an electronic bus schedule be placed at the exit to the alternate platform? This would enable the passengers the option to enter lashing rain as their busses are arriving as opposed to getting totally drenched as they wait.

Read the question on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetrolinxOfficial/posts/10156347794813035

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Metrolinx Social
Apr 20, 2018 - 08:52

Sylvia M. (via Facebook) asks:
Why doesn't the go train go from Kingston to Niagara at least 4 times a day - to start? So many people would choose it over driving the qew 401 gauntlet. And local buses to be timed to meet each train. The go should replace via in the golden horseshoe and run much more frequently. All go trains should run beyond rush hour. Not just business people would like the alternative to car travel.

Do not charge a fee for parking at go stations. That is penalizing commuters, most of whom would rather live in the city of it decided to promote affordable housing. You can't get blood out of a stone.

Read the question on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetrolinxOfficial/posts/10156347794813035

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aedrdz_6310's avatar

Currently parking is past capacity at the Aldershot GO station in Burlington. Cars are always parked along the roads and on the sidewalks. When will there be an expansion of the Aldershot GO station parking facilities?

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lock.hughes_5586's avatar

Given: That Canada and the provinces like Ontario have now legalized the "power-assisted bicycle"...

and Given: That use of the battery-electric motor assisted bicycle has already "exploded" in use and popularity in places like in China and in Europe...

and Given: That places and cities around the world are severely restricting and banning use of the private automobile...

and Given: that cities are lowering speed limits...

I'll suggest that Metrolinx might be encouraging use of the electric bicycle for shorter distance, urban commutes and travels. There are now countries and cities literally "throwing money" as discount/rebates for the purchase on electric bicycles.

So the question might be: How "Neanderthal"/out-of-date with reality might Metrolinx wish to be? (in promoting "vintage" technology... or might Metrolinx wish to "get with the program"... ;)

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Hamilton has the oldest average population in Ontario. It also has a fast growing suburban area. How on earth does a 10k line running through the downtown to the university help these people? It makes zero sense.

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j.rossharvey_5996
Apr 18, 2018 - 06:15

The Vaughan extension is full of mistakes. It was a clear case of lobbying by York University to give it three stops at Finch, on campus, and at Steeles. The path it took is a convoluted curvy mess. The easiest decision would have been to continue in a STRAIGHT LINE up Dufferin and be completed years earlier. York U already had a Go station near Keele, well off campus, they didn't need three subway stops on it. If the goal was to get to Hwy 7 which is not where York region ends, it was short sighted, as no parking lot was built for the terminus, only a cash grabbing Smart Centre lot not run by the other parking authorities used by TTC. Clearly Vaughan Mills and Wonderland never met your radar for Vaughan expansion, but should have. If you really want to connect the regions, build a subway at Bovaird/Castlemore/Rutherford/Carville/16th as it is also much straighter than the Jane Street expansion, and would serve Brampton to Markham. Loops don't work, they cause backlogs, you need grids, E-W and N-S, and this is clearly a failure on the part of engineers and planners swayed by lobbyists instead of common sense. Your proposed DRL is in the wrong location. using Don Mills and Millwood will be exorbitantly expensive as you have three options at Millwood crossing, build another bridge for the subway, rebuild the monster bridge there now, or tunnel very deeply below it to get to Pape. None of those options have a thread of logic to them. Don Mills is more lobbyists controlling your process. Bayview is a much straighter more viable location for a DRL, but nobody is lobbying for it. Less water crossings, less curves and hills, and parallels DVP much better than Don Mills. Stop building in a wasteful manner, your BIG MOVE is a very flawed and poorly detailed document that barely equals a napkin drawing. I have read it, yet more York U lobbying wants a BRT and an LRT connection at Steeles and Jane respectively. Aren't three subway stops enough for this place? As a rare user of a subway to get downtown, why are expansion stops expecting me to by a Presto card? Poor planning all around.

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