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Ontario Line LIVE - North Segment – September 16

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Agenda

6:30PM: Meeting Begins/Opening Remark

6:35PM: Presentation: Ontario Line Project Update for the North Segment

7:00PM : Questions and Answers (pre-submitted questions)

7:30PM: Questions and Answers (call-in questions via Zoom)

7:55PM: Wrap up and Closing Remarks

Meet the Speakers

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Richard Tucker

Ontario Line Project Director

Photo of Malcolm MacKay

Malcolm MacKay

Ontario Line Project Sponsor

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Natasha Jailal

Senior Manager, Property Team

John Potter, Manager, Design Standards

John Potter

Manager, Design Standards

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Anonymous's avatar

I live on Cosburn and would really like to know what buildings are being torn down for the Cosburn station. Also can you start notifying the actual RESIDENTS of Pape Village in the apartments of these meetings? It's insulting you do not.

Anonymous's avatar

How much of the construction between Pape and Cosburn will be above ground? Will Pape be closed? What are your plans to reduce the impact on local residents and businesses?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 13, 2021 - 19:34

Can you comment on why you have disengaged with community groups. It makes it seems like Metrolinx is up to something nefarious

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 14, 2021 - 09:16

Why can't Metrolinx ever seem to have honest and meaningful engagement with community groups?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 5, 2021 - 00:40

With the Bridge needed to be constructed between Overlea to Pape, how long will it take to build and will it need closures on the DVP?

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Anonymous
Sep 9, 2021 - 05:46

Why can't the existing Millwood Bridge be used, rather than constructing an addition one? That poses much greater impact on the environment. If it can't, why wasn't the recent revitalization / construction on the bridge done with this development in mind?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 10, 2021 - 11:23

In conversations with the drilling rig crews that came to check the Minton Pl area, they indicated that in the area where the Minton Pl portal is being built, the bedrock is almost 180 ft below the surface level.

Can you comment on what that means in terms of the design, construction, and overall safety of the portal and the bridge, including how much time will be required to pile drive supports?

Anonymous's avatar

Can you make Science Center station underground???

The interchange between OL and Line 5 is best served UNDERGROUND just like Yonge & Bloor or Yonge & Sheppard. Why must the platforms be in the air? Why can't they be dug underneath Line 5 and use cut n cover construction along Don Mills on the land owned by Ontario for the OSC on the west side? It can be done.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 14, 2021 - 09:15

In the past, you said you'd cap home expropriation at 4 homes. We heard that you're hinting that the final number could be higher than four. Why can't you commit?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 4, 2021 - 01:03

if the line does get extended north to Don Mills station on line 4, how many stations will it add ?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 5, 2021 - 23:00

Ontario line is passing by elevated past the Costco. Why not locate part of the maintenance yard to the north of the CN tracks and connect with an elevated track. Prime developable land within walking distance of Thorncliffe station is currently being used to store trains.

Anonymous's avatar

Hi,

What steps are you planning to take to reduce the effects of the removal of trees in the area to soil erosion and soil movement?

Paul

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Anonymous
Sep 5, 2021 - 13:22

You mentioned in your last virtual meeting that you would look into your ruling that you intend to put a flag or lien on property that you may require to expropriate for various reasons.
It was your intention to keep this threat over homeowner's heads "Until the project concludes"
Do you have any advanced information regarding the anticipated location of these expropriation sites?

Furry Rider's avatar

Why is the Science Centre Station located diagonally opposite and two levels above to the Eglinton Crosstown stop (as far as possible from the Science Centre as you could possibly make it)?

Anonymous's avatar

Anonymous
Sep 8, 2021 - 01:47

For stations Like Thorncliffe Park and Flemingdon Park, since these are elevated stations will there be public spaces built around these stations?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 10, 2021 - 11:28

Will you commit to a park or another public space in the area of the Minton portal once construction is complete? Can you clearly commit to us that this area will not be developed into more housing, condos, etc?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 12, 2021 - 17:07

Why have you not widely informed the community that you will be tearing down a large multi-block portion of Pape Village for Cosburn Station? Why has there been no notice in the mail of these meetings for area residents?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 13, 2021 - 17:37

The Ontario line is an other important project to extend underground transportation of the city and recuperate, up space for enjoyment of residents, I would like to know when the construction would start

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 13, 2021 - 19:32

You have stated you do not feel vibration or noise will be an issue for the community. When construction is ongoing as well as completed and vibration and noise become an issue will you compensate all homeowners or will we be forced to launch multi million dollar lawsuits

Anonymous's avatar

how high will the proposed Ontario line bridge be above the DVP?

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Anonymous
Sep 14, 2021 - 09:27

Where's the bike lanes on the bridges to tpark & flemo?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 3, 2021 - 17:40

Not sure if this is available anywhere else but when will we find out which trains will be chosen for the rolling stock? Maybe the same as the Metropolis trains used on the REM?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 5, 2021 - 00:43

With the station being built at above the bus terminal, how high will the elevation be, will it impact the Superstore and will there be changes to the configuration of the Don Mills and Eglinton intersection?

Anonymous's avatar

In particular the need for sound and vibration control. Things like covering the bridge and adding sound barriers.

Anonymous's avatar

Can you confirm the exact underground tunnel path that will be constructed between the new station at Pape and the next one south at Gerrard? Many neighbours want to know if the trains will run directly or close to directly under their homes. Thank you.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 14, 2021 - 17:11

Why must this transfer between lines be so complicated unlike Bloor-Yonge, Eglinton-Yonge, or Sheppard-Yonge? All of those stations have lines crossing each other perpendicularly in a stacked platform format meaning one line is directly above the other with only one short escalator or elevator ride to transfer between lines. Why can't this be done at Eglinton & Don Mills? The entire heavy rail network was designed on the premise of easy transfers between lines and this station layout defeats decades of efficient design. If this is truly supposed to divert traffic from getting to Line 1 at Yonge, the transfer to the Ontario Line needs to be simple and effective.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 5, 2021 - 11:32

Where will the street air vents be located (the tunnel air that is displaced by the train cars) and will any of them require expropriation of property?

Anonymous's avatar

Will above grade and tunnelled areas both require expropriation / demolition along the just parts or the entire route?

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Anonymous
Sep 13, 2021 - 17:03

Will Pape station's bus terminal be open during construction? Will the bus loop close when the Ontario Line opens?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 14, 2021 - 09:14

Why are you dismissing our neighborhood's main requests (covered bridge, sound barrier) that were provided as part of the PACCT Action Plan?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 14, 2021 - 21:25

How come is so complicated? Why no put one line and other line both underground? Who make so stupid design? Spend money, do not cut corner.

Furry Rider's avatar

Why not give real relief to Line 1 and build the Ontario Line to at least Sheppard?

Anonymous's avatar

PACCT, the organization body representing our neighbourhood has told us that Metrolinks did not give them any notice for this meeting. How are we to learn about these types of initiatives if you actively work to alienate the community groups?

Anonymous's avatar

Particularly the portion of Pape Ave north of Danforth.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 16, 2021 - 19:01

Minimum or very disingenuous community engagement with Thorncliffe Park folks. Last townhall was a "monologue" and for tonight not enough notice or publicity was given. This is just a rolling over of thorncliffe folk who racial, minorities and considered expendable. Probably decisions taken by who don't live here!

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Anonymous
Sep 12, 2021 - 23:30

The signage brought forward for the Eglinton Crosstown is quite different from what the TTC has come up with. The TTC's signage is far superior and easier to read. Please consider contracting out signage to the TTC signage department as it is very important to have a unified transit brand for Toronto who is doing just fine with the TTC's signage which is far superior that anything anyone at metrolinx has come up with. Oh, and I don't want to see the letter "T" visible on any of the stations. Toronto already has a symbol that means transit, and that is the iconic TTC logo. Leave well enough alone! The money has been spent and a good system has been found.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 13, 2021 - 00:16

Can you work with the TTC to create a new community bus route between Cosburn Station and Coxwell Station to serve Michael Garron Hospital?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 13, 2021 - 00:19

Is there any chance that Flemingdon Park gets scrapped because it cost too much? I hope not. We really need it.

Anonymous's avatar

In the past, you said you'd cap home expropriation at 4 homes. We heard that you're hinting that the final number could be higher than four. Why can't you commit?

Anonymous's avatar

Given that no one in Thorncliffe Park is happy with the approach being imposed, what will the ONTARIO Government do to correct this, before it’s too late, and the lasting damage is done?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 16, 2021 - 18:45

It's 6:45 and the meeting hasn't been started

Anonymous's avatar

Anonymous
Sep 16, 2021 - 19:55

I would appreciate a platform.

Anonymous's avatar

Looking at google maps, 20 Overleas is actually the address of the mosque itself - so what does she mean?

Anonymous's avatar

Will the stop be
on the west side of Overlea ?

Furry Rider's avatar

Why not give real relief to Line 1 and build the Ontario Line to at least Sheppard?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 9, 2021 - 21:16

Since you're spending money for building the Ontario line, it's important that you should also focus on integrated fares,
& this video link will tell you why: https://youtu.be/h5IK5lLUniE

Anonymous's avatar

where is planned location ? any work started, when ?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 15, 2021 - 09:21

Given that these info sessions have all been scheduled on major religious holidays, will the next one be held on Christmas Day?

Anonymous's avatar

Anonymous
Sep 16, 2021 - 19:08

This is going to happen even if all folks in Thorncliffe park stand on their heads right?
Decided by folks and shoved up our.....

Anonymous's avatar

Will the new Don Valley crossings include pedestrian and cycling infrastructure?

Anonymous's avatar

Anonymous
Sep 16, 2021 - 19:38

Toronto has an unpresented amount of development, but no increase of open space. Should not the valley be preserved for the current residents in an protected asset to the existing urban environment.

Anonymous's avatar

all this disruption? Jane-Finch got a Community Centre from Spadina extension. Everyone knows Jimmy Simpson will be improved. Can Thorncliffe Park get a public access Community Centre?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 12, 2021 - 23:26

Please consider adding a station at Cherry Street as that area is densifying quite rapidly and in an area that dense, it only makes sense to add an additional station in such a developing area. The cherry station should be named Distillery as it is IN the distillery district and the station on the former parliament site should be named Front Street or The Esplanade. It has no business being named distillery. That name would be confusing for tourists trying to find the Distillery district.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 14, 2021 - 09:27

Why are you dismissing our main requests (covered bridge, sound barrier)?

In the past, you said you'd cap home expropriation at 4 homes. We heard that you're hinting that the final number could be higher than four. Why can't you commit?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 16, 2021 - 18:30

Will there be bike lanes and enhanced streetscaping brought to Overlea and Don Mills as part of the elevated guideway?

Anonymous's avatar

100% of respondents agreed that Metrolinx takes advantages of minority communities.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 16, 2021 - 18:59

You are building a WALL, not a fence.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 16, 2021 - 19:05

how many of your location scouts were from the community actually? how many in your surveys were actually from the community actually? not even the ward councillor was given an opportunity!

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 16, 2021 - 19:25

Is there a justification for this, especially with current downtown utilization. Is this baesd upon the desire to expand the desire to expand the footprint of the GTA.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 16, 2021 - 19:29

Are you going to respond?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 3, 2021 - 15:44

I think it's best that Thorncliffe Park station has a center island platform while Flemingdon Park and Science Centre stations has side platforms

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 3, 2021 - 23:07

Besides having 3 stations platform screen doors except for Pape and Flemingdon Park stations,

I think it's best that Cosburn and Thorncliffe Park stations should have center island platforms

while Flemingdon Park and Science Centre stations has side platforms

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 12, 2021 - 16:39

Consideration to Thorncliffe Park train yard
Anonymous
Sep 12, 2021 - 16:34
It’s interesting to me that it appears the train yard only takes out the mosque and Iqbal plaza behind it, but not the Tim Hortons or Pharmacy at the corner, nor the Costco. Considering the demographic of this neighborhood, how and why would this location be considered? What are you doing to help the community relocate these important services within the neighborhood? This is a neighborhood easily accessible for all resident needs by foot, it needs to remain as such.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 3, 2021 - 23:09

I think that Flemingdon Park station's design should be like TTC McCowan station

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 9, 2021 - 21:12

besides Exhibition and Science Centre stations, what other stations will have double track crossovers and storage tracks

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 12, 2021 - 23:17

As flowery as the names of some stations might sound, they don't aid much in navigation. Flemingdon Park should be named Gateway as that is the street it is serving with a lot of residential density. Those streets are more or less majour in that area and aids in navigation. Transit is supposed to be a means of getting around, not a tourist vehicle. Moss Park is not the best description of the area and should be called Sherbourne South or Jarvis. Once again, those outside the area should have an easy time at locating the stations. Few outside of the area are aware of that name.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 13, 2021 - 10:42

I have seen Metrolinx discussing the benefits of the Canada Line in Vancouver/Richmond. The issue discussed with the Canada Line is that the trains/stations are too short for the demand. Essentially building subway infrastructure with subway trains at light rail length. Please don't make the same mistake. This is Toronto! Please ensure the trains are at least 6 cars in length. Time to build transit for the future!

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Anonymous
Sep 13, 2021 - 11:02

The majority of metro railway lines in Toronto use the "Toronto Gauge" (distance between each rail) as opposed to the gauge used on the main lines and the new LRT lines. It makes sense down the road for the Ontario Line to be cross-compatible with the subway network so maintenance vehicles can be shared and potentially if the loading gauge is similar, future vehicles can be purchased for the subway system AND the Ontario Line. We have already learned the dangers of having a separate line with different technology with the last 30+ years of the Scarborough RT.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 16, 2021 - 16:17

The Toronto Subway uses a specific rail gauge for their Line 1, 2, and 4.
Why has Metrolinx planned to use a DIFFERENT GUAGE for the Ontario Line?
There are 3 interchange stations with a possible 4th at Don Mills, where the Ontario Line could connect to the pre-existing subway infrastructure.
Not only would it benefit passenger service, but maintenance and organization of all the trains!

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 13, 2021 - 00:06

Where are Paula Fletcher and Peter Tabuns to protect Pape Village from demolition?

All of their energies have been spent fighting for Leslieville only! Are we second class citizens?

Let's kick them out of office in next year's elections!

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 13, 2021 - 11:07

To build on my previous comment on train gauge, to ensure further cross-compatibility between the subway lines and the Ontario Line, the signalling system must be the same. Please use the same signalling system so down the road, you don't need multiple different crews across the TTC subway lines and the OL needing to learn different technologies and using different tools. We have already learned our lesson on that with the SRT.

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 3, 2021 - 15:50

To enhance safety for riders who are blind or have low vision, I think it's best that all the stations that have center island platforms should have platform screen doors

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 8, 2021 - 09:38

is it possible to delay this meeting to the week of September 20th - after the Federal Election? This is the week there are 3 Federal All Candidate Meetings being held from Sept 13th to Sept 16th in Don Valley East (flemingdon park) and Don Valley West (thorncliffe park)?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 8, 2021 - 17:29

if the Ontario line doesn't get extended north to Don Mills station on line 4, the line won't connect to viva

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 9, 2021 - 21:10

what kind of typeface should the Ontario line use for wayfinding signage?
ClearviewADA or Swiss721?

Anonymous's avatar

Anonymous
Sep 9, 2021 - 21:13

will you also construct DWA's (Designated Waiting Area) inside the stations
& if you do, how many payphones and Passenger Assistance Intercoms will you add to a station platform?

Anonymous's avatar

Anonymous
Sep 9, 2021 - 21:14

What kind of ESCALATORS will you use for the Ontario line?

The ones used on the Toronto subway or the ones used on the Eglinton Crosstown?

Anonymous's avatar
Sep 9, 2021 - 21:17

will the Ontario line's number come from TTC line 3

Anonymous's avatar

Anonymous
Sep 9, 2021 - 21:10

What kind of elevators will you use for the Ontario line?

The ones used on the Toronto subway or the ones used on the Eglinton Crosstown?