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SmartTrack LIVE Event: Finch-Kennedy GO Station Virtual Open House – November 29, 2021

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Agenda

6:30: Meeting Begins/ Opening Remarks  

6:35: SmartTrack Finch-Kennedy GO Station Project Update  

7:00: Questions and Answers  

7:50: Wrap up & Closing Remarks  

8:00: Meeting End 

Meet the Speakers

David Brutto

David Brutto

Senior Project Manager, Transit Expansion Office, City of Toronto

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Ghulam Mojadidi

Manager, Stations Capital Delivery, Metrolinx

Nilgun Erkoc

Nilgun Erkoc

Senior Manager, Community Engagement, GO Expansion Stations, Metrolinx

Gretel Green, M.Sc. CISEC

Gretel Green, M.Sc. CISEC

Manager, Environmental Programs & Assessment, Metrolinx

Anthony Irving

Anthony Irving

Manager, Stakeholder and Community Relations, Transit Expansion Office, City of Toronto

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Raef Ghali, P.Eng, PMP, CCCA

4Transit – Senior Project Manager

Greg Tokarz

Greg Tokarz

Program Manager, Transit Implementation, City Planning, City of Toronto

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Anonymous's avatar
Nov 14, 2021 - 22:09

Will there be a GO/TTC co-fare (i.e. a fare discount for using both systems)?

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:31

Future fare setting decisions will be considered in the broader context of regional fare integration. The Province and Metrolinx will continue to engage the City, including TTC and other municipal partners to develop a regional fare integration framework and associated measures to ensure a seamless travel experience through the broader region.

Anonymous's avatar

Steeles needed grade seperation due to stopping GO Trains at Milliken GO.
Double track was just installed at finch, could grade seperation not have been done at the same time for less cost?

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:32

Works required for the Finch grade separation are more consistent with the future SmartTrack Finch Kennedy GO Station construction, and therefore it makes more sense to combine the grade separation and the station construction works. 

Integrating the new station with a grade separation has a number of design benefits, including optimizing connections with local transit on Finch Avenue and facilitating access from the community. 

Anonymous's avatar
Nov 9, 2021 - 23:23

Please consult with the local community on a station name that reflects the community. The station is on Finch, but Kennedy Road is some distance away. Let’s take the opportunity to name it something that isn’t just two street names combined.

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:32

Discussions are currently underway to determine how the SmartTrack stations will be named once completed. We will explore possible community engagement activities as part of that process however it is too soon to speak to the station naming process at this time.

Anonymous's avatar
Nov 29, 2021 - 11:08

How will the Finch-Kennedy station create a transit-oriented community when the area is very unwalkable with disconnected streets? Even a location directly next to the station will require a significant detour to walk to.

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:33

At this point in time, the area around the station is designated as General Employment and Core Employment.  If this were to change in the future, and there was to be development around the station, additional streets and blocks would be created and a priority would be creating public realm including pedestrian and cycling connections.

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Silver star Blvd is full of businesses but in order to get there from the station you first have to walk all the way east to Midland, then head north, then west back into Silver Star Blvd. In early concepts, Silver Star Blvd was planned to extend to Finch Ave. Do the city and Metrolinx have plans to have access from the north end of the station?

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:35

In 2020, the SmartTrack Stations program was revised - the northern entrance and access road was descoped and the pick-up/drop-off was moved south to be closer to Finch Avenue East.

The current design for the SmartTrack Finch-Kennedy GO Station was approved by Toronto City Council in Feb 2021. 

Adding another entrance to the station would be a significant change in the scope of work and would require direction from City Council to do so.

Also, the design of the station is at 30% Reference Concept Design (RCD).  Metrolinx is delivering the SmartTrack stations on behalf of the City and is proceeding with the procurement.  So major scope changes cannot be accommodated without affecting the timing of the project.

If there are significant changes in the station area that would indicate that additional entrances and access points would be needed, this could be added in the future.

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Anonymous
Nov 29, 2021 - 18:34

Are there any plans to develop walking pathways from the neighborhoods around the stations. Specifically from Midland and from Kennedy or Milliken

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If there is a slide deck for the presentation, will it be posted online?

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:43

Project pages for each of the SmartTrack stations are currently available and can be viewed by visiting www.metrolinx.com/SmartTrack. You can also visitthe City of Toronto's SmartTrack webpage at www.toronto.ca/SmartTrack.

A PDF of the slide deck for this open house is available on this Metrolinx Engage page. Click on Presentation Materials link to download the slide deck. You can also watch a recording the meeting on this page in the video player window above.

Anonymous's avatar
Nov 14, 2021 - 22:08

How convenient will it be to transfer between the 39/939 buses and GO trains at Finch/Kennedy Station?

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:44

The proposed GO Station and the associated Finch Avenue grade separation are being designed to provide very convenient passenger transfer between the TTC buses on Finch Avenue (currently Route 39 Finch East and Route 939 Finch Express) and the GO Train service. The current plans of the grade separation include bus bays or “laybys” on both the north side (westbound direction) and south side (eastbound direction) of Finch Avenue to accommodate the TTC buses. These bus laybys are located immediately adjacent to the entrances/exits of the GO Station “pavilions”. Passengers upon alighting the buses and entering the station pavilion will have access to stairs and elevators that will take them directly up to the northbound and southbound GO Train platforms. Conversely, GO Train passengers exiting the northbound and southbound trains would take these stairs or elevators down to the lower level and exit the pavilions to board the Finch Avenue buses that will stop just outside the pavilion exit doors.

Anonymous's avatar
Nov 29, 2021 - 18:24

Will you keep 2 lanes of traffic each way on Finch during the entire construction period?
Will you also keep 1 sidewalk open?

Anonymous's avatar
Nov 29, 2021 - 19:39

What requirements are needed such that it is worth it to build a tiny entrance (walk in and cycle only) just south of silver star blvd.

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Anonymous
Nov 29, 2021 - 16:32

Will the station include a bus terminal for the 39/939 finch buses as well as for other routes similar to how most ttc subway stations have bus terminals in them?

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:45

The proposed GO Station and the associated Finch Avenue grade separation are being designed to provide very convenient passenger transfer between the TTC buses on Finch Avenue (currently Route 39 Finch East and Route 939 Finch Express) and the GO Train service. The current plans of the grade separation include bus bays or “laybys” on both the north side (westbound direction) and south side (eastbound direction) of Finch Avenue to accommodate the TTC buses. These bus laybys are located immediately adjacent to the entrances/exits of the GO Station “pavilions”. Passengers upon alighting the buses and entering the station pavilion will have access to stairs and elevators that will take them directly up to the northbound and southbound GO Train platforms. Conversely, GO Train passengers exiting the northbound and southbound trains would take these stairs or elevators down to the lower level and exit the pavilions to board the Finch Avenue buses that will stop just outside the pavilion exit doors.

Anonymous's avatar
Nov 29, 2021 - 19:56

Is it possible to have a connection to some of the business’ parking lot? Like 27 milliken blvd and B122-3272 Midland Ave. This does not require destruction of businesses but improve connectivity of the area.

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Will it work more like a commute train in Japan, or just southbound to Union station?

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:46

The SmartTrack Finch-Kennedy GO Station will serve the Stouffville GO line. It will follow the same service levels and will stop at the same stations as other GO trains which travel on this line, in both directions. The goal of the SmartTrack Stations program is to remake the regional commuter service into an urban rapid transit network that will improve Torontonian’s transit choices and provide more reliable route options that meet Torontonians travel needs – from work, to shopping, recreation, and social trips.

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:50

A soil and excavated material management plan will be prepared prior to construction. This plan will determine best management practices and identify all options for beneficial re-use of soil in accordance with O.Reg 406/19. The soil will be sampled and if it meets the applicable guidelines will be re-used on site, if possible. If the soil cannot be re-used on-site it will be transferred to an approved receiving facility. If the soil is found to be contaminated and cannot be re-used it will have to be disposed of at a licensed landfill facility

Anonymous's avatar

Will it be integrated with Presto?

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Will the station feature retail units or community facilities? The image of the Finch Avenue station entrance looked pretty sparse - retail or a coffee shop would be nice to have - both for passengers and locals!

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Anonymous
Nov 30, 2021 - 06:31

Not sure if the images you are showing are the final design - but they are very bland and colourless! Put some colour and pizazz into the station buildings - whether that be public art, or just a bit more of a colourful exterior design! Make the station stand out in the community.

Anonymous's avatar

The city did not provide signal priority to the high capacity LRT trains on the crosstown.
Will the city give signal priority to the SmartTrek trains, or should the trains wait for car traffic to clear before moving?

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:48

SmartTrack GO stations are being built along GO rail corridors across the City of Toronto, meaning that when SmartTrack GO stations open, operations will be the same as GO rail operations.

The only interface between cars and trains on the GO transit network are at existing level crossing.  That said, the new Finch-Kennedy GO station will have a grade separation, meaning the trains will travel on a overpass and traffic on Finch Ave E will travel unimpeded by the train on an underpass.

Anonymous's avatar
Nov 24, 2021 - 04:18

the GO Stouffville line uses this track and with the new Grade Separation of that line from Steeles Ave- GO, or Metrolinx was planning on increasing train frequency on the Stouffville line- wouldn't a new station so close to the Milikin Station at Steeles impede the GO service greatly?

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Metrolinx
Dec 2, 2021 - 14:49

The business cases used to evaluate potential SmartTrack GO stations considered transit benefits and impacts, including the effects of a new station on corridor travel times.

Trains that will stop at the future SmartTrack Finch-Kennedy station will also be serving the Milliken GO, as well as all stations on the Stouffville Corridor. Each station will experience increasing train frequency. 

The future SmartTrack Finch-Kennedy GO Station, and more frequent service will provide an opportunity for existing and future riders on the Stouffville corridor to take advantage of the new connections at Finch.