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SmartTrack LIVE Event: Bloor-Lansdowne GO Station Virtual Open House – December 9, 2021

 

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Agenda

6:30: Meeting Begins/ Opening Remarks  

6:35:  SmartTrack Bloor-Lansdowne GO Station Project Update  

7:00: Questions and Answers  

7:50: Wrap up & Closing Remarks  

8:00: Meeting End 

Presentation Materials

Meet the Speakers

Nilgun Erkoc

Nilgun Erkoc

Senior Manager, Community Engagement, GO Expansion Stations, Metrolinx, Moderator

Gretel Green, M.Sc. CISEC

Gretel Green, M.Sc. CISEC

Manager, Environmental Programs & Assessment, Metrolinx

Ghulam Mojadidi

Ghulam Mojadidi

Manager, Stations Capital Delivery, Metrolinx

Krista

Joyce Young

SmartTrack Stations Program Station Sponsor, Metrolinx

Mary Farrell

Mary Farrell

Senior Project Manager, 4TRANSIT

M.J. Rehman

M.J. Rehman, P.Eng., PMP, MBA

Senior Project Manager, 4TRANSIT

Anthony Irving

Anthony Irving

Manager, Stakeholder and Community Relations, Transit Expansion Office, City of Toronto

Greg Tokarz

Greg Tokarz

Program Manager, Transit Implementation, City Planning, City of Toronto

David Brutto

David Brutto

Senior Project Manager, Transit Expansion Office, City of Toronto

Additional Speakers

  • Paramvir Lakhi, Manager, RER Fleet Maintenance Support, Metrolinx
  • Gurpreet Bola, Manager, Safety Audit & Regulatory Affairs, Metrolinx
  • Dan Nicholson, Manager, Community Planning, West Section (Ward 4, 9), City of Toronto

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Anonymous's avatar
Nov 9, 2021 - 23:18

How will a convenient and seamless pedestrian connection be implemented to the nearby TTC Lansdowne subway station?

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 12:22

The SmartTrack Bloor-Lansdowne GO Station scope of work includes a multi-use path that connects to the Davenport Diamond Greenway, via a bridge over Bloor St W. The multi-use path provides a connection between the GO station and Lansdowne subway via Wade Avenue.

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Anonymous's avatar
Nov 26, 2021 - 17:30

Will a multi-use path connecting north to the Davenport Diamond Greenway and south to Dundas and the West Toronto Railpath Extension be built concurrently with the station? Will there also be pedestrian and cycling connections west across the tracks to Sterling Road?

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Metrolinx
Dec 15, 2021 - 13:06

In coordination with the SmartTrack Stations Program, Metrolinx will be constructing a Multi-Use Path which will run along the east platform of the SmartTrack Bloor-Lansdowne GO station. The Multi Use Path will connect Davenport Diamond Greenway to the north at Wade Ave. On the south end, the project limits are at the south end of the platform at Dora Ave. That said, the SmartTrack King-Liberty Station project will continue the Multi-Use Path from Dora Ave. to the West Toronto Rail Path Extension at Dundas St. W. 

Constructing a pedestrian access to the station from Sterling Rd is in the project scope. 

The location for an east/west pedestrian tunnel is currently being studied and will be finalized in early 2022. We are currently assessing the extent to which we can shift the station tunnel southward to improve the experience of pedestrians connecting between Dora and Sterling, while maintaining its primary station access function.  
 
GO station tunnel placement is guided by several technical standards and customer experience factors, providing the most direct and convenient path for passengers. Metrolinx and the City of Toronto will continue to together to advance the design and development of the station and its pedestrian connections. 

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Anonymous's avatar
Nov 26, 2021 - 22:18

What will be the connectivity to the West Toronto Railpath? Having a simple connection to it would make it easier for people from adjacent neighborhoods (e.g. Roncesvalles, Junction) to access the station by bike

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Metrolinx
Dec 15, 2021 - 13:07

In coordination with the SmartTrack Stations Program, Metrolinx will be constructing a Multi-Use Path which will run along the east platform of the SmartTrack Bloor-Lansdowne GO station. The Multi Use Path will connect Davenport Diamond Greenway to the north at Wade Ave. On the south end, the project limits are at the south end of the platform at Dora Ave. That said, the SmartTrack King-Liberty Station project will continue the Multi-Use Path from Dora Ave. to the West Toronto Rail Path Extension at Dundas St. W. 

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Anonymous's avatar
Nov 19, 2021 - 17:00

Will this station be built in accordance with the electrification of the Barrie line?

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 12:25

Electrification is part of the GO Expansion project, and the contract for that project will be awarded in 2022. Once a contractor is on board, we will work with them to determine a schedule for construction and electrification. Approximately 200 km of new track will be installed as part of that project, and over 600km of track will be electrified. Construction will start in late 2022 or in 2023 and is expected to wrap up in 2032.

In the mean time to help mitigate noise impacts around stations and across the network, Metrolinx has also committed to:

  • Installing exhaust noise silencers on existing and future Metrolinx diesel locomotives which will decrease the sound from these trains by 3 dB. There are a total of 56 locomotives that require this modification. Thirty are complete as of Oct 2021. With approximately 3 modified per month, we estimate that all 56 will be complete by the  end of Q3 2022.)
  • We are working on reducing engine idling
  • Improvements to tracks and switches to reduce vibration and noise
  • Installation of ballast mats to reduce vibration.
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Anonymous's avatar
Nov 21, 2021 - 23:23

Much of the northern section of the Barrie corridor has been built for the provision of a 3rd track for future express service (example is Rutherford GO station). Will this station have a provision for a future 3rd track, even if it passes the station without a platform?

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 13:04

There is no provision for a third track at the SmartTrack Bloor-Lansdowne GO station as the Davenport Diamond Grade Separation is not wide enough to accommodate it. It is the intention for all trains serving the Barrie corridor to stop at this station, so there would be no need for a third track for the purpose of bypassing the station.

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Anonymous's avatar

Given the development on Sterling Road, I think it would be important to provide a direct access to Sterling Road (for both directions of travel)

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 12:36

Constructing a pedestrian access to the SmartTrack Bloor-Lansdowne GO Station from Sterling Rd is in the project scope.

The location for an east/west pedestrian tunnel is currently being studied and will be finalized in early 2022. We are currently assessing the extent to which we can shift the station tunnel southward to improve the experience of pedestrians connecting between Dora and Sterling, while maintaining its primary station access function.

GO station tunnel placement is guided by several technical standards and customer experience factors, providing the most direct and convenient path for passengers. Metrolinx and the City of Toronto will continue to together to advance the design and development of the station and its pedestrian connections.

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Nov 27, 2021 - 09:23
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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 13:07

Construction of SmartTrack stations is expected to be finished in 2026, with stations being open to riders shortly following the end of construction.

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Anonymous's avatar

The short sighted UP Express bandaid that is stubby diesels with barely more capacity than the King Streetcar,
is at least quiet.
Go Trains are horrendously loud.
What trains will run on this and with what sort of dB ratings?

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 12:32

Electrification is part of the GO Expansion project, and the contract for that project will be awarded in 2022. Once a contractor is on board, we will work with them to determine a schedule for construction and electrification. Approximately 200 km of new track will be installed as part of that project, and over 600km of track will be electrified. Construction will start in late 2022 or in 2023 and is expected to wrap up in 2032.

In the meantime to help mitigate noise impacts around stations and across the network, Metrolinx has also committed to:

  • Installing exhaust noise silencers on existing and future Metrolinx diesel locomotives which will decrease the sound from these trains by 3 dB. There are a total of 56 locomotives that require this modification. Thirty are complete as of Oct 2021. With approximately 3 modified per month, we estimate that all 56 will be complete by the end of Q3 2022.)
  • We are working on Reducing engine idling
  • Improvements to tracks and switches to reduce vibration and noise
  • Installation of ballast mats to reduce vibration.
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Anonymous's avatar
Nov 21, 2021 - 21:01

What alternatives to bell ringing from the trains are being explored by Metrolinx? The increased train traffic from SmartTrack will create a further disruption to local area residents.

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 13:20

Alternatives to bell ringing are currently being explored through the UP Express Bell Ringing Cessation Pilot. The Pilot is currently delayed as the project team works to ensure that all safety risks identified are mitigated. Since there is a high level of interaction between the public and trains at stations, this work is a vital step in the process.

Metrolinx is continuing to work with the third-party vendor and internal I&IT to put forward risk-based, informed solutions that will ensure customer safety while mitigating bell ringing concerns.

At this moment, we cannot commit to an official pilot start date, but we will ensure to keep the community up to date on the project’s progress. We appreciate the patience of the community and the concerns around noise from bells. Safety is Metrolinx’s top priority and we must ensure that the safest solution is implemented.

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Anonymous's avatar
Nov 30, 2021 - 14:00

What are the plans for installation of a noise barrier wall along St. Helens Ave. between the track/platforms and the residences spanning Dora Ave. to Bloor? Considering the timeline for electrification has been delayed to after the station is scheduled for completion, there will be idling diesel trains next to these residences.

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 12:33

A noise impact assessment was completed for Bloor-Lansdowne Station which identified the noise impact of electrified trains to be under 5 dBA, which does not warrant the need for noise mitigation along the east side of the rail corridor.

However, as was pointed out in this question, the station is scheduled for completion prior to the electrification of the Barrie line. To help mitigate noise impacts on the surrounding neighbourhood prior to electrification, exhaust noise silencers will be installed on all future and existing Metrolinx diesel trains which will reduce the sound from these trains by 3 dB. It is anticipated that all Metrolinx trains requiring exhaust silencers will have them installed by the third quarter of 2022, meaning they will be equipped prior to the completion of the station.

Existing barriers at the west platform that will be removed for station construction will be replaced with noise walls. Given the delay in electrification, additional noise barriers on the east side of the corridor are currently being explored and assessed; the results of that will be communicated to residents once the assessment is complete.

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Dec 9, 2021 - 18:35
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Metrolinx
Dec 13, 2021 - 17:18

Future fare setting decisions will be considered in the broader context of regional fare integration. 

The Province and Metrolinx will continue to engage the City, including TTC and other municipal partners to develop a regional fare integration framework and associated measures to ensure a seamless travel experience through the broader region. 

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Anonymous
Nov 19, 2021 - 13:20

Some residential units at 284 St Helen's will directly be facing the station to the south, and some will be facing the platform to the east. What is the design plan to ensure noise, safety and privacy for these neighbours? Will the public have direct access to 284 St Helen's?

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 12:38

The public will not have direct access to 284 St Helens Ave. from the platform. East platform access will be from Dora Ave and a retaining wall with a fence above will be installed along the rail corridor (east side of platform and east side of Multi-Use Path) to ensure no passengers enter private property from the platform.

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Anonymous's avatar
Nov 19, 2021 - 13:26

Will there be a 'kiss and ride' design for this station? If so, how will traffic be managed on St Helen's for commuters who might be dropped off at this station by a car?

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 12:52

The SmartTrack stations are being designed to encourage multi-modal, active transportation options such as walking and cycling along the Multi-Use Path.That said, we recognize that some people will want to drop-off and pick-up passengers to and from the station using a car.

We are currently exploring the option of on-street, designated pick-up / drop-off areas along St. Helens Ave. (at Dora Ave.) or Sterling Rd. On the one hand, we recognize this might impact the availability of on-street parking, but on the other hand, a lack of a dedicated pick-up/drop-off area might lead to drivers utilizing those spaces for station pick-up / drop -off regardless of whether they have been designated as such. We will continue to update the community as our exploration of the issue continues.

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Anonymous's avatar

We hope that given the negative experience of local residents with excessive overnight construction on the Davenport Diamond project, that Metrolinx will work to find ways to minimize overnight construction on this coming project.

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 13:07

The SmartTrack Bloor-Lansdowne GO Station is being built along a busy rail corridor, and therefore a significant portion of the station construction will likely take place in the evenings, weekends and overnight when the trains are not running or during track closures.  When night work must be scheduled, crews practice noise mitigation tactics as much as possible. Nearby residents and businesses will receive ample notification of work.

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Anonymous's avatar
Nov 28, 2021 - 18:43

Will any sort of allotment be made in current construction for a potential underground connection to Lansdowne Station, perhaps even via future residential construction that is likely to come on the north side of Bloor?

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Anonymous
Nov 30, 2021 - 14:03

There has been a lack of consistent and clear information regarding the cessation of bell ringing in dense, urban areas. We have previously received information that a pilot was underway, but the most recent information from Phil Verster is that no such pilot has commenced. What is the status of the pilot program and will this be addressed soon?

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 13:18

The UP Express Bell Ringing Cessation Pilot is currently delayed as the project team works to ensure that all safety risks identified are mitigated. Since there is a high level of interaction between the public and trains at stations, this work is a vital step in the process.

Metrolinx is continuing to work with the third-party vendor and internal I&IT to put forward risk-based, informed solutions that will ensure customer safety while mitigating bell ringing concerns.

At this moment, we cannot commit to an official pilot start date, but we will ensure to keep the community up to date on the project’s progress. We appreciate the patience of the community and the concerns around noise from bells. Safety is Metrolinx’s top priority and we must ensure that the safest solution is implemented.

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Metrolinx
Dec 23, 2021 - 16:01

At this time, there are no plans for public art at SmartTrack GO Stations.

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Anonymous
Dec 9, 2021 - 19:31

When will the Railpath extension actually see shovels in the ground?

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Anonymous
Dec 9, 2021 - 19:47

Will the station design take into account the needs for those with mobility issues… will all entrances be assessable? Otherwise those with issues may have long routes.

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Metrolinx
Dec 23, 2021 - 16:03

All station entrances at the SmartTrack Bloor-Lansdowne GO Station will be accessible.

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Anonymous
Dec 9, 2021 - 19:55

The station would be a great canvas for indigenous and local artists. MOCA is right next door on Sterling

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Metrolinx
Dec 23, 2021 - 16:01

At this time, there are no plans for public art at SmartTrack GO Stations.

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Why don't the plans presented include a tunnel connection linking the Dora Av and Sterling Rd entrances? The majority of bike parking appears to be at Dora Av, but for people who need to go between there and the southbound platform, they have to walk nearly the full length of the northbound platform to reach the tunnel near Bloor - not practical.

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 13:24

The location for the east/west pedestrian tunnel is currently being studied and will be finalized in early 2022. We are currently assessing the extent to which we can shift the station tunnel southward to improve the experience of pedestrians connecting between Dora and Sterling, while maintaining its primary station access function.

GO station tunnel placement is guided by a number of technical standards and customer experience factors, providing the most direct and convenient path for passengers. Metrolinx and the City of Toronto will continue to together to advance the design and development of the station and its pedestrian connections.

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Anonymous's avatar
Nov 30, 2021 - 14:04

This event has been poorly advertised and most people in the neighbourhood aren't even aware of the pending station construction and associated issues (bell ringing, idling diesel trains, etc.). What is the Metrolinx communications strategy that will ensure the neighbourhood is well aware of what is happening?

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 12:42

There is a communications strategy for the SmartTrack Stations Program which includes:

  • Mailing or distribution campaigns for public events and construction notices within a .5KM to 1 KM radius of the station site (dependent of Canada Post delivery routes).
  • A SmartTrack Stations Program webpage at www.metrolinx.com/smarttrack or www.toronto.ca/smarttrack
  • Regular tweets on the @GOExpansion Twitter account about the SmartTrack Stations Program and upcoming events
  • Regular updates on Metrolinx’ e-blast newsletters for SmartTrack construction notices, public events, and other information.  Sign-up for the Toronto West newsletter by visiting www.metrolinx.com/subscribe
  • Sharing of communication materials with elected officials for dissemination in ward and riding newsletters/updates
  • Metrolinx’s Toronto West Community Office is reachable at [email protected] or 416-202-6911
  • The City of Toronto’s Transit Expansion Office is reachable [email protected] or 416-338-2848

That said, we are always open to hearing from the community about the best way to share information and engage with local stakeholders. Please feel free to share your recommendations with us here or by emailing [email protected]

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Anonymous's avatar

Why can’t the diesel train layover currently planned for the DV Layover be instead located in the area by Lakeshore and Eastern Avenue mentioned as a future location for a station

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Metrolinx
Dec 9, 2021 - 12:55

The Don Valley Layover is not part of the SmartTrack Stations Program. The Don Valley was selected after meeting a number of criteria, specifically its proximity to downtown. For more information about the Don Valley Layover, please visit: https://www.metrolinxengage.com/en/engagement-initiatives/don-valley-layover-facility

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Anonymous
Dec 9, 2021 - 19:29

It would be great if community members could access St. Helens from Sterling or vice versa using the tunnel without payment…will this be possible?

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Metrolinx
Dec 10, 2021 - 13:17

Yes, the planned pedestrian tunnel is meant to serve as an east/west connection for the community. You would not have to pay to access this connection.

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Anonymous's avatar
Dec 9, 2021 - 19:39

There is a proposed development for the value village site, can a ----de-sac Pudo be included there?
Much closer to bloor st.

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Metrolinx
Dec 23, 2021 - 16:12

Constructing a permanent accessible pick-up and drop-off area for the SmartTrack Bloor-Lansdowne GO Station is part of the scope of work for the developers of 1319 Bloor St. W.

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Anonymous
Dec 9, 2021 - 19:41

What green standard is the station being built under ?

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Metrolinx
Dec 23, 2021 - 16:20

The SmartTrack Bloor-Lansdowne GO Station will meet the City of Toronto Green Standards for Mid to High-Rise Residential and Non-Residential, Version 3 Tier 1, as applicable to the station.

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Anonymous
Dec 6, 2021 - 14:27

Given that there are many options for transit on Bloor Street just steps away (UP, Subway), why didnt Metrolinx and partners consider building this station a bit further north, say on Dupont? There is a nexus of high density buildings there which could have benefitted from closer transit options other than buses.

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Metrolinx
Dec 23, 2021 - 16:10

The station was selected based municipal and regional land use and transportation policy direction supported by the Toronto Official Plan.

The station site is located in a mixed-use area, which is slowly transitioning from its former industrial character to a more residential one. The site is surrounded by medium-density residential buildings and low-density employment/ commercial uses. There are also vacant and underused properties around the site with redevelopment potential.

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