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The Ontario Line LIVE - North Segment Presentation - June 30, 2021

Archive - June 30, 2021

On June 30, 2021, Metrolinx hosted a presentation and live Q&A focused on Pape, Cosburn, the Don Valley Crossing, Thorncliffe Park, Flemingdon Park, Science Centre, and the maintenance and storage facility, with over 140 people in attendance. During the virtual open house, we answered top-voted questions submitted by registrants, as well as live questions from participants using a Zoom call-in option. Participants asked a variety of questions related to the location of the maintenance and storage facility, transit corridor lands, environmental assessment, planning approaches, and more. We’ll be posting answers to questions from the event on this page soon.

For those who weren’t able to join us, you’ll find the video recording below. We’re looking forward to holding many more meetings in the future, including workshops on options for the noise walls around the maintenance and storage facility.

 

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As we continue to evolve the virtual engagement format, we are adding a call-in option for tonight’s event. To ask your question by voice, join the Zoom meeting here. We aim to keep each question and subsequent answer to 3 minutes allowing for as many call-in questions as possible.

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Agenda

6:30PM - 7:00PM: Ontario Line Project Update

7:00PM - 7:30PM: Questions and Answers to Pre-Submitted Questions

7:30PM - 8:00PM: Call-in Questions

Virtual Open House – June 30, 2021 Outstanding Questions

What technology will be used to build the bridge over the DVP between Pape and Overlea for the Ontario Line to run on?

The exact approach to construction will be available following the selection of the project company who be delivering the work, which is tracking for 2024.

You can find conceptual renderings and learn more here on our website.

Will alternatives already proposed to avoid Overlea Blvd completely for the alignment be acted upon? As the alignment currently is being presented, it is still impacting residential properties, community services and businesses in a very detrimental way.

In Thorncliffe Park, plans were updated to move much of the line off Overlea Boulevard. Instead of the original plan to proceed along Overlea after reaching Thorncliffe Park Station, the alignment will instead curve to the north to run next to the nearby hydro corridor, reducing community impacts and creating a better fit for the neighbourhood.

Metrolinx will continue to work with communities to ensure designs are sensitive and respectful of the neighbourhoods the Ontario Line runs through and that measures are in place to address noise or vibration impacts, where necessary.

Why can't the Ontario Line North transversing the Leaside bridge run along Bannigan Drive as opposed to the Overlea corrider -

Many residents have asked why it couldn’t follow the curves of the road in that area and align the portal closer to the existing Leaside Bridge. However, doing that would mean slowing the trains down significantly, reducing the overall benefits of a quick journey downtown and, in turn, creating more noise and vibration for residents due to the special track work needed for such tight curves.

Blogs say 2 bridges over the Don... to get your elevated tracks across Seton Park to Flemingdon Park Stn, wouldn't that be a bridge too? Got any design details?

The Ontario Line will run along elevated guideways and stations in this area.

Emerging from the southern bank of the Don Valley at Minton Place, a bridge connecting to Thorncliffe Park will be slim and well-designed to minimize visual and environmental impacts.

Elevated tracks and stations that will run from Thorncliffe Park to the Ontario Science Centre will be completely separated from vehicles and pedestrians so they can provide reliable, safe service.

Why does the alignment veer off Overlea Blvd? Good opportunity to add an extra station between Thorncliffe and Flemingdon stations and better serve the community.

Plans were updated in Thorncliffe Park to move much of the line off Overlea Boulevard in response to community feedback. Instead of the original plan to proceed along Overlea after reaching Thorncliffe Park Station, the alignment will instead curve to the north to run next to the nearby hydro corridor, reducing community impacts and creating a better fit for the neighbourhood.

We appreciate your suggestion for an additional station. Please note that the proposed Ontario Line route and its 15 stations was selected with a view to making the best use of available funding to increase access to transit, maximize ridership, achieve travel time savings, reduce overcrowding on existing transit services and create better access to jobs.

How will power be supplied to the trains: electrified rail or overhead cable? If overhead, will it use a grounded rail as one of the conductors?

The Ontario Line will be delivered with an Overhead Catenary System (OCS). The final configuration of the OCS will be decided by the Project Company chosen to deliver the Rolling Stock, Systems, Operations and Maintenance (RSSOM) procurement package for the Ontario Line. The Project Company delivering the RSSOM package will design the distribution system and determine the power requirements.

We anticipate that a Project Company for the RSSOM will be chosen in 2022. You can learn more about procurement here on our website.

Can the trains be Skytrain Mark 3 or Mark 2 so that the cars can at least be interlinked like the Toronto Rocket?

Thanks for your suggestion. We expect the line to feature modern, automated trains like the ones used in Vancouver, London, Paris and Singapore. However, the exact type of train for the Ontario Line will be selected by the Project Company chosen to deliver the Rolling Stock, Systems, Operations and Maintenance (RSSOM) procurement package, based on Metrolinx’s requirements. We anticipate that a Project Company for the RSSOM package will be chosen in 2022. You can learn more about train technology here and the procurement process here on our website.

The Ontario Line is mostly below ground until crossing the Don Valley. After that, when coming to the Thorncliffe Park area, it becomes above grade. Why didn’t the line remain below ground at Overlea Blvd. onward and why put the maintenance yard so close to residential area?

Due to the geography in this area of the city, we would need to tunnel very deeply to get in and out of these areas.

To get under the Don Valley by the Leaside Bridge and an offshoot of the valley that wraps around Thorncliffe Park, we would have to build the deepest station in Toronto’s transit network, making for very long connections for passengers to buses at street level. This would also mean longer construction timelines and higher costs.

The maintenance and storage facility is a vital organ of any public transit operation. An estimated 200 train cars will be needed to meet Toronto’s needs when the Ontario Line opens, and the fleet will grow by as many as 50 more vehicles to meet demand for service in the future. We need a site of 175,000 square metres to house and maintain the trains and this amount of vacant land just isn’t available in the city. The site in the southeast portion of the Leaside Business Park was selected because our studies showed that it keeps impacts to the local community to a minimum while meeting all the needs for the project. Learn more here on our website.

Please verify that the new Ontario Line will not have a stop for Valley Park Middle School and Marc Garneau High School at Overlea and Don Mills.

Thorncliffe Park Drive is shaped like a horseshoe with an east and west entrance and exit. If the new Ontario Line runs along Overlea are the thousands of Thorncliffe Park residents expected to walk to Overlea? Please explain.

The Ontario Line Thorncliffe Park station is positioned closest to the Thorncliffe Park Drive and Overlea Boulevard intersection.

During the planning process, we studied station locations with a focus on bringing several benefits to our customers, including: increasing access to transit, maximizing ridership, reducing travel times, reducing overcrowding on existing transit and creating better access to jobs.

The station located at Thorncliffe Park Drive will serve an estimated 12,800 people within a comfortable 10 minute walk by 2041. The new station will also bring people closer to roughly 3,000 jobs in the area.

Is the line going to affect the public archery range in E.T Seton park? Recent route maps show the Ontario Line passing through or very close to the range.

When will we hear about the location and design of the bridge over the valley at ET Seton Park to get to Flemington Park Station? Will the archery range be protected? Will the bridge look nice or just bland?

We are still in early stages of the project and it is too soon to confirm anticipated impacts to park spaces during construction. However, we know how important the park and archery range are to the local community and we are committed to working with the City of Toronto to restore park spaces to the same condition or better once construction is complete. If the archery range remains open during construction, safety will be a top priority and regular communication and safety measures will be in place to keep users safe.

We expect to release our Environmental Impact Assessment for the project in early 2022 and this will include a thorough analysis of environmental impacts anticipated from the project as well as things that Metrolinx and its contractors can do to mitigate those impacts. You can learn more about our environmental assessment process here.

What method will you be using to construct the subway up Pape? Cut & cover or boring?

What method will you use to construct the subway from Danforth to Cosburn? Will you be using cut and cover or boring?

Our priority is to keep our construction footprints slim, keep property impacts to a minimum, and keep construction sites safe. We’ll be exploring a number of techniques including tunnel boring, sequential excavation or mining and cut and cover methods.

Techniques will vary based on what the safest, most effective approach for the type of ground we’re working in and how much space is available to carry out the work. Any approach we take will be respectful of surrounding community spaces.

What is the potential of a northern extension to the Sheppard Line 4 and what would an alignment look like?

I agree that this line should be extended to the Sheppard line so that the Ontario line can connect to all lines except Line 6.

Our plans protect for the possibility of expanding the line in the future to improve transit access and meet demand. Tail tracks, north of the Science Centre Station, will provide space for the storage of vehicles and protect for future expansion.

Has Metrolinx taken any steps to respond to the many significant concerns raised by the Thorncliffe Park community regarding the Maintenance & Storage Facility? What action has been taken in response to the motion passed by Toronto City Council (MM32.27) calling for alternative site and configuration options for the MSF?

Will Metrolinx hold a dedicated community consultation meeting for the residents of Thorncliffe Park to focus on the impacts of the Maintenance & Storage Facility?

Has Metrolinx given any consideration to recommendations regarding realignment of the Ontario Line and physical changes to MSF design, or to move the MSF to alternate location? Thorncliffe residents have made recommendations. When will discussions with effected residents be held?

For 83 days the Thorncliffe Park community has been saying that it DOES NOT want a train yard. Can you acknowledge this publicly? Will Metrolinx commit to exploring alternatives to Thorncliffe Park as the site for the MSF - particularly north of Thorncliffe in the Business Park?

Which Minister or government official approved the siting of the MSF in Thorncliffe Park? Was the information provided more comprehensive than that provided to the community in the materials you have released? If so, will you publicly release the detailed analyses associated with the options you presented the Minister to demonstrate that she was in a position to make an informed decision

Who at the city approved the MSF in Thorncliffe? Why is it a secret?

Why is the maintenance storage facility located so close to Thorncliffe Park's urban center and residences, and not further north on industrial yards?

Will Metrolinx commit to exploring alternatives to Thorncliffe Park as the site for the MSF - particularly north of Thorncliffe in the Business Park adjacent? This would allow the businesses in Thorncliffe to be able to serve the community, and would ensure that Thorncliffe does not have a large barrier across the north of their neighbourhood.

Strongly encourage Metrolinx to consider putting the MSF under the new development at East Harbour.

We chose the maintenance and storage facility (MSF) site because it had the fewest permanent job impacts of all the options we looked at while still meeting all necessary technical requirements. We looked at land options from the western terminus at Exhibition through to the eastern and northern end of the line. A list of nine sites was brought forward for more detailed analysis, some of which were ruled out because they weren’t big enough or affected too many businesses and jobs.

The process leading to the decision to locate the MSF at this location has been extensive. Having said that, we are consistently engaging with the community to incorporate input on the design of the MSF, and collaborate on how to minimize impacts to the community, both during construction and when the project is operational.

We have also been meeting regularly with the community since the last virtual open house, including impacted organizations, businesses and residents in the Thorncliffe Park area. We have also worked directly with local elected officials to organize and facilitate these engagements on a scheduled weekly or biweekly basis.

We will continue to work with the community to ensure that the new infrastructure fits into the neighbourhood’s fabric and keeps disruptions to a minimum.

For the Maintenance Storage Facility which is in the Thorncliffe park area, has the area been assessed so that affected businesses can remain there?

We will work closely with impacted businesses to find ways to help them relocate a location that makes sense for them and their business.

We’ve made connections with the City of Toronto’s Economic Development Department to ensure we’re looking at this from every possible angle.

We also have a dedicated team of professionals whose sole purpose is to support businesses and employees through the acquisition process, working to understand their unique needs so that we can develop tailored support plans for each one. These plans will be based on the individual needs and the supports might differ on a case-by-case basis.

Negotiations are commercially sensitive, but we are committed to providing fair market value for any property that is needed in addition to providing relocation supports.

I don't understand. How can an elevated section between Thorncliffe Park and Science Centre stations connect to an at-grade MSF?

Detailed design and planning work is still underway at this early stage in the project, so we do not have further details to share at this time. We look forward to engaging with the community on more detailed plans once available.

This line is fully automated, so won’t trains have the ability to be stored at stations overnight?

The maintenance and storage facility is a vital organ of any public transit operation and it’s function is not limited to train storage. It’s where the trains will not only be stored, but also inspected, cleaned and maintained so they’re ready to take riders to their destinations.

An estimated 200 train cars will be needed to meet Toronto’s needs when the Ontario Line opens, and the fleet will grow by as many as 50 more vehicles to meet demand for service in the future. We need a site of 175,000 square metres to house and maintain the trains. You can learn more about the maintenance and storage facility here on our website.

Once the line is completed/operational, what will be the vibration and sound parameters of the trains for buildings in close proximity to the tunnels?

Have you successfully resolved the noise and vibration issues in other jurisdictions such that the residents are now able to enjoy their neighbourhoods?

Our aim is to make sure there will be no significant difference in noise and vibration levels compared to what people are experiencing today. The whole line will feature continuously welded rail with no joints, resulting in a smoother, quieter ride as trains pass over the tracks. We’ll also be using modern, electric, automated trains which will help avoid the sounds that arise from human error, like hard breaking.

A more detailed understanding of impacts and proposed solutions will be part of the Environmental Impact Assessment Report, which we anticipate releasing for review and comment in January 2022. This builds off the findings of the Environmental Conditions Report, which we consulted on and finalized in November 2020.

How do you expect property values to be impacted from now that we have received liens and during building? I assume you have data from the Eglinton line. And how many properties did you take over for the Eglinton line and how far did the line ever deviate from the road. I am 60 metres from Pape.

How will owners be compensated for loss of property values?

As a homeowner close to the proposed portal on Minton, I have experienced noise during prolonged drilling investigations, and loss of interest from prospective purchasers of my home due to transit corridor designation. How will we be able to live with any degree of comfort in our homes during construction given the noise and dust, truck traffic and construction equipment. How is Metrolinx planning to compensate us for loss of value and unbearable living conditions?

I believe being in a transit corridor negatively affects my property value. Given that I purchased this property over 25 years ago when there was no reason to think this would happen, what can I do about this?

We know we’re impacting your day-to-day life, and we want to help lessen those impacts wherever possible. Please don’t hesitate to contact us and if you have concerns about noise, vibration or other construction impacts, you can also learn more on our FAQ page.

Please note that compensation would apply in cases where a property would need to be acquired for transit construction. Whether we have to acquire a portion of your property or your entire property, you will be compensated at fair market value.

Please note that Metrolinx does not comment on property values, which are influenced by a complex variety of factors beyond the control of the transit authority.

If a home needs to be acquired how is value determined. If I sell next year how do I assure the buyer they won't get a value less than what they paid?

If our house is identified as needing to be expropriated, how will you determine the amount to be paid to the homeowner?

In all cases, owners are compensated for their property at a price they could expect through a sale at fair market value. Fair market value represents the value of the property based on the market conditions at that time. A third-party appraisal will be completed to estimate the fair market value.

A property owner may also complete their own appraisal to determine or confirm the fair market value. In some cases, other kinds of third-party experts may be asked to help determine fair market value for a property, such as environmental consultants.

At what point or using what criteria will Metrolinx remove the notification added to our property title regarding 30m proximity to a transit corridor?

How many years or months will the notification remain on our property line?

Once construction is complete and the line opens, the intention is for the Ontario Line transit corridor lands designation and notice on title to be removed.

You can learn more about the transit corridor lands at Metrolinx.com/Property.

We received a letter that we our property is within 30 meters from the transit corridor. We live on Hopedale over 150 meters from the proposed line and wondering why we received this letter and whether Metrolinx has different plans in the works for the proposed Minton Place section?

I would also like a map of the planned work to understand how our property is within 30m of the transit corridor.

The Ontario Line transit corridor lands vary in size and are not limited to the location of the Ontario Line track route.

The boundaries for transit corridor lands were set by looking at the existing infrastructure in the area, the route and design of the transit line, and how the project is to be built. An additional 30 metre buffer zone was then applied around the transit corridor lands.

The boundaries of the transit corridor and the associated buffer are expected to be the outermost boundary within which utilities may need to be relocated, where construction staging or material storage may occur, where roads may need to be closed for long or short terms or traffic flow may need to be redirected. This may also be the area where construction related trucks may need to park and where there may be access points to particular construction areas. It is also the area where the transit project construction activities may need to interact and coordinate with other projects initiated by others such as the City, developers and utility companies.

Please note that the actual construction, staging and access areas are still to be defined based on plans to be developed with the construction proponents. Once those are more clearly defined it may be possible for Metrolinx to tell residents affected precisely the impacts of the construction on their property and their street.

You can see the boundaries and look up your property on our online interactive map to find where you fall within the transit corridor lands. The boundary is labelled as the “Transit Corridor Lands + 30-metre buffer area” and shown in blue. The planned Ontario Line route is shown in maps here.

You can also find more information at Metrolinx.com/Property.

How much notice do you provide for expropriation?

When will the homeowners in the northern section of the Ontario line receive expropriation letters?

If the map shows the tunnel going directly under a property I own, will there be compensation for the 'easement'?

When will we know if this project will affect our property or not?

When will you provide a map that shows houses that will be affected by construction?

At what point will you notify homeowners in the transit corridor whether their properties will be expropriated or required for easements? Or, if this notification has already occurred, then could that be clarified for those of us still waiting and on hold; see the June 3rd, 2021 letter about our title changes and possible scenarios?

For a long time, many of us have been hearing that one of these two scenarios *may* happen... someday, maybe, possibly, or not. This ongoing ambiguity is having a serious financial impact on the potential to buy, sell, renovate, or rent properties in the area. Plans for station designs and routes are been released to media and outlined in community consultations such as this one, for many of the major stations on the ON Line. If stations are being designed, then routes below and above ground have also have likely been determined. So it seems time for Metrolinx to now be able to deliver a clearer ETA as to when specific properties on the ON Line will or will not be required for expropriation or easement -- or if not notification of individuals, then at least provide us a date by which this notification will take place. Then, we all have a clear sense of the timeline.

We understand that residents and businesses want those details and we will reach out to impacted property owners at the earliest opportunity. If Metrolinx confirms that a property is needed to support construction or operation of the project, the property owner will receive written notification from us informing them that this is case.

After that, Metrolinx will arrange to meet with the property owner to answer any questions they may have, including how much property is needed and why, how the acquisition process works, and expected timelines. Multiple meetings will take place throughout the property acquisition process to ensure property owner has the information and support they need.

We will know more about precise environmental and community impacts as the project moves through further design stages, which are currently underway.

Why are notifications being received the same day as the event? There is no scheduling for residents to attend this.

Thumbs-down option is rude and unhelpful. Please do not include it at future meetings.

I’ve heard of meetings with local business and community leaders. What about meetings with homeowners who pay property taxes and may have their properties impacted?

We appreciate you sharing this feedback with us. We’re continuously looking to refine and improve our virtual open house format, including our pre-event proactive outreach and notification efforts.

Please know that the June 30 virtual open house is one of many more sessions we will host regularly going forward.

The virtual open houses are also one of the many ways we are engaging with residents. We always welcome questions and feedback via email, phone and social media. You can also book a meeting with one of our team members our Metrolinx Engage platform.

How high will the elevated subway platforms be at Thorncliffe Park, Flemingdon Park and Science Centre stations?

What technology will be used to build the elevated structures for the Science Centre, Flemingdon and Thorncliffe Park Stations?

Is it best that Moss Park and Pape stations have side platforms only while the rest of the underground stations have center island platforms? Also, can Queen Station on the Ontario line serve not just as a center island platform but a side platform on one side?

Regarding Pape station: 1) are new entrances/exits being considered, and if so where? 2) Location of construction staging areas currently being considered?

Can Pape station have side platforms on both line 2 and the Ontario line? That way, Pape station won't have the same overcrowded business as Bloor-Yonge.

I think that Pape should have side platforms while Cosburn has a center island platform.

For the Thorncliffe Park Station will you be able to incorporate the Tim Hortons, the Wendy's and neighbouring businesses with this station?

Detailed designs and renderings and means and methods for construction will come to life through the procurement process after the selection of the project company who will be delivering the work, which is tracking for 2024.

Stations will be designed with the community in mind and using a set of guidelines that make sure stations are attractive and fit into the areas they will serve.

Regarding Pape Station and the connection to Line 2, this station will be an important interchange station for TTC and Ontario Line customers. Current plans have the Ontario Line station below the existing Line 2. We’re having regular conversation with the City of Toronto and TTC to make sure transferring between the two lines will be seamless.

 

We look forward to working with community and the City of Toronto on how to design Ontario Line stations that the community will be proud of.

Metrolinx has gotten terrible at notifying residents of any work that is happening, let alone these meetings. Will Metrolinx establish a local office to deal with the Cosburn stop and actually notify the residents living in the apartment buildings in the area of the major work that is to be started? Also when IS the work going to be starting and what is going to happen with the bus routing?

When will maps be distributed with details of the proposed bus loop in Thorncliffe and which current bus lines will be affected?

We appreciate you sharing your feedback. It is always our priority to provide notice to local residents and businesses when work is taking place in their area. Please contact us if you have any concerns or did not receive notice about work in your area and we will investigate.

Please also note that the delivery timeline will be confirmed through the procurement process by the project company who will be delivering the work. We anticipate a project company will be selected in 2024 for the Northern Civil, Stations and Tunnel procurement contract, which covers this area. You can find the projected Ontario Line timeline here on our website.

Regarding bus routes, Metrolinx and the TTC are working together to ensure that the bus network serves the communities along the Ontario Line even better. The Ontario Line will provide a faster option for passengers who are travelling further distances while also reducing crowding at key points in the TTC subway network, but buses will still serve an important function in these communities, and our understanding is that all the bus lines that currently serve both communities will continue operating. We’ll have more detail about any potential route changes as the project progresses.

Initial plans showed 2 stops in Thorncliffe (Thorncliffe Park Drive is a horseshoe and stops were at either end of the "U"). Also initial plans had a stop in Flemingdon. Are all Thorncliffe residents now expected to walk to the 1 Thorncliffe station, and are Flemingdon residents expected to walk to the Science Centre station? 60% of the combined Thorncliffe/Flemingdon neighbourhoods are now without a station within 10 minute walk.

We are advancing plans for 15 Ontario Line stations, including a Thorncliffe Park Station and a Flemingdon Park Station. You can find maps and more details for both these stations here on our website.

Besides Science Centre, which other stations will have an off-road bus loop or an off-road bus terminal?

Please note that detailed station design plans are still underway, and we are working closely with the TTC on how to best meet future transit needs and make sure customers have easy access to both the Ontario Line and TTC services.

The Ontario Line will be an integrated part of the current rapid transit system and will provide 15 stations, including six interchange stations and the following connections to other transit:

  • connection to three different GO train services – Lakeshore West, Lakeshore East and Stouffville;
  • connections to four local rapid transit lines—two to Line 1, one to Line 2 and one to the Eglinton Crosstown LRT;
  • connections to existing streetcar lines at 10 Ontario Line stations
  • connections to existing bus services at 12 Ontario Line stations.

You can find a list of all stations and connections to existing transit services in the Ontario Line Preliminary Design Business Case (pages 41-50).

Does Metrolinx intend to have all the procurements for necessary lands and all contracts for construction signed before the next provincial election?

When will the whole line open?

Please also note that the delivery timeline will be confirmed through the procurement process by the project company who will be delivering the work. We anticipate a project company will be selected in 2024 for the Northern Civil, Stations and Tunnel procurement contract, which covers this area.

You can find the projected Ontario Line timeline here on our website.

Will there be TOD on top of MSF? (Including affordable housing, new business/shops, community infrastructures) These are done in many countries successfully.

Benefits:

  1. more people live closer to public transit.

  2. businesses affected during construction can be relocated to similar location after the line opens.

  3. reduce wait time of affordable housing in Toronto.

  4. block the noise from MSF since it will be cover by the development's structure.

  5. increase jobs availabilities in the area.

  6. efficient use of space

Do Metrolinx have plans to do that? If not, what is restricting/prohibiting TOD in that location?

At the other Ontario Line stations, we’ve seen renderings of beautiful buildings and plans for transit-oriented communities including new jobs, housing, retail and much needed public amenities. Why didn’t Metrolinx consider the development potential of the Overlea site in the Thorncliffe community instead of removing an emerging community hub to replace it with a massive walled-in train yard adjacent to a subway station? We deserve better.

Please note that the transit-oriented communities (TOC) program is led by the Province of Ontario and Infrastructure Ontario and does not fall under Metrolinx’s purview. Infrastructure Ontario will lead public consultations for transit-oriented communities proposals in the future.

Is Metrolinx releasing a map of the planned underground work to be done? As a homeowner in the "transit corridor land designation" I'm concerned.

I would also like a map of the planned underground work to be done? As a homeowner in the "transit corridor land designation"

We want a map of the tunnel, NOT the corridor.

How deep are the tunnels running along Pape? Does the new line go under the existing line? I'm concerned for noise disruption in houses along the Pape corridor.

Design and planning work is still underway, and we look forward to bringing more detailed project plans to the community once available, such as tunnel renderings. Still, you can find the map of the planned tunnel route in this area here on our website.

The tunnel will be about 20-30-metres deep underneath Pape Avenue as it passes your street, and it will be constructed using tunnel borers deep underground. We expect that the significant depth of the tunnel will reduce impacts to homes.

Current plans have the Ontario Line station below the existing Line 2. We’re having regular conversation with the City of Toronto and TTC to make sure transferring between the two lines will be seamless.

Concerning noise, please see the Noise and Vibration section above for more details

Is there any map / info about the area between Pape tunnel portals and Gerrard station? Assessment of noise levels? Any sound protection? Visuals of this sound protection, ie. height dividing the community? What happens to municipal plans for this area, such as pedestrian tunnel under railway to connect Pape? How large will be fenced off, are there plans for pedestrians to cross Metrolinx corridor as is possible now? Any info would be appreciated.

On the portion of the subway going up Muriel Avenue, what method do you plan to use for tunnelling?

You can find the overview map for the Ontario Line’s North Segment, from Pape Station to Science Centre Station, and maps for each station area here on our website.

Concerning noise, please see the Noise and Vibration section above for more details.

Please know that we are working with the City of Toronto to coordinate Ontario Line plans with other planned developments in the area.

Means and methods and plans for construction will come to life through the procurement process after the selection of the project company who will be delivering the work, which is tracking for 2024.

When will you present a detailed map of where the Pape Tunnel portal will be in relation to Pape Jr School? How deep will the tunnel be beneath school? Will you be monitoring the air quality from dust and debris being so close to playgrounds full of children? How will the spoils from the tunnel be removed from the tunnel?

The portal at Gerrard is planned to ensure the Ontario Line will be underground before it reaches the school itself. It won’t affect safe access to Pape Avenue Junior Public School. We're working closely with the school and parent council on plans to keep the area safe for students and faculty while also protecting the building and playground. For families who choose transit, the nearby station at Gerrard will make getting to and from school simpler.

You can also find a detailed joint corridor rollplot here on our website, which shows the location of the tunnel portal on the right-hand side.

We expect to release our Environmental Impact Assessment for the project in early 2022 and this will include a thorough analysis of environmental impacts anticipated from the project as well as things that Metrolinx and its contractors can do to mitigate those impacts. You can learn more about our environmental assessment process here.

The project company selected to deliver the work will develop a Soil and Excavated Materials Management Plan for the handling, management and disposal of all excavated material (i.e., soil, rock and waste) following City standards and guidelines set by the Ministry of the Environment, Conservation and Parks. Prior to work beginning, designated disposal areas will be identified to ensure proper handling of all construction materials throughout the life cycle of the project. Space will be dedicated to gathering excavation materials within the proposed construction work zone and materials will be transported to nearby designated spoil handling areas on off-peak hours, when possible, to limit traffic impacts.

Meet the Speakers

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Richard Tucker

Ontario Line Project Director

Photo of Malcolm MacKay

Malcolm MacKay

Ontario Line Project Sponsor

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Natasha Jailal

Senior Manager, Property Team

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James Francis

Manager, Environmental Programs and Assessment

Carolyn Tunks, Manager, Pre-Construction Services

Carolyn Tunks

Manager, Pre-Construction Services

Other Attendees

  • Joseph Thornley, Moderator, 76engage

Format &Accessibility

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